Claire,
I may be able to help a bit at the start of the session, but I have a
commitment for most of the day & evening - if there are any outstanding
squares for validation I will try to join in later at night.
Could I suggest we try to keep it as close to normal as possible - if
I check a square & am happy, I will validate it, but may put a comment
in the comments box concerning any slight changes I may make. Because of
my lack of language skills, I created these two links on the wiki which
could be pasted into the comments box & hopefully would help to pass
information;
Buildings which have not been squared, but should have been
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Buildings_feedback
Not adding a changeset comment when saving / uploading
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data/Changeset_comment_missing
I sometimes send a message using the OSM message system, and on occasion
have linked the message with screenshots showing the changes I have made.
I strongly suspect that smaller squares will mean that it is more
difficult to interpret
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa but this will not
be the fault of the new mapper, just an indication of how difficult it
is when you can only see a small area. It will need the validator(s) to
take an overview of several squares & change the tags appropriatly -
this is fairly easy once the mapper has done the difficult & time
consuming job of tracing the path / track / unclassified / residential
............. way.
Hope this helps.
Regards & have a good day.
Nick
On 12/09/14 02:51, Claire Halleux wrote:
Hi Nick and Volunteers,
On Saturday morning, from 900 to 1300 UTC, we'll be having another
small mapathon/mapping party in Kinshasa in order to edit Ebola
affected area in DRC, using some new imagery. Nearly all of the
participants will be beginners, so I am planning to create another
task with small squares and I think this could be a good place for
testing this type of training task. Potential validators will be
welcome to send feedback during the event. As it usually gathers
between 10 and 20 participants, a few validators would be enough in
theory.
Let me know if anyone would like to support this event,
Moreover, do you think exchanging messages within TM and OSM website
will be enough? or should we try to set up an additional skype group
or anything else for the event? IRC? (local participants have never
used it as far as I know, same with Mumble).
Best,
Claire
Claire Halleux
Volunteer and Member of the Board
+243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC)
Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
http://www.hotosm.org/
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Nick Allen <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Ralph,
Thanks for the offer of help - you're likely to see a request for
help approaching the 30th September when we have another Missing
Maps Project Mapathon in London.
I'm really hoping that Blake can make progress on a guide to
satellite imagery - it's been on my todo list for some time, but
I'm conscious I've started many things and it would be good if I
actually finished a few of them. Although I agree that starting
new mappers with crisp images would be good, I think it would be
good to include a few fuzzy ones in the guide to show what you
have to deal with sometimes - educated guessing?
At the moment I'm not intending to contact mappers who have not
marked as complete the squares they have opened. There can be
genuine reasons - it's happened to me several times. It can also
be a question of confidence & I don't want to frighten anyone
away. If we can get a trial area, and the trial works, then this
may largely solve the problem. I think also that the general
discussion will have raised awareness & that can make a difference
as well.
Thanks again
Nick
(Tallguy)
On 09/09/14 17:53, AYTOUN RALPH wrote:
Hi Nick,
I have been mapping the Africa HOT projects and am familiar with
the 'on the ground' knowledge of some parts of Africa.
I like your idea for assisting the new mappers and agree that
some of the image material is pretty difficult to map due to
various reasons...cloud cover, fuzzy images or overcrowded towns
and slum areas to mention some.
Choosing easier areas with sharp images would help the new
mappers to get the feel of the work and build up confidence, and
having feedback for their work early on would help them to know
if they are doing the right thing or not.
To this end I am willing to give you a hand in helping new
mappers to read the imagery, create more complex building shapes
and the use of basic tags. Please let me know if there is
anything I can do to help.
I have come across the increasing problem of mappers not happy
about marking squares as done, I have gone to numerous squares
and apart from a few tweaks there is nothing left to do, but a
number of mappers have opened that square, looked around and then
unlocked it again. I feel guilty marking those squares as done
when I have hardly done any work on them. Should we contact the
person that has done the most work and tell them they have done
well and could they please go back in and mark it as done so they
get the credit for closing it?
Regards
Ralph
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