I just opened a ticket on the main HOTOSM website in github earlier today where it is linked to as a resource, but it doesn't respond to any http requests.


Cheers,
Blake


On 1/23/2015 6:10 AM, Kate Chapman wrote:
Hi Mark,

The HOT Private Datastore is specifically for private data, so what data
is available is up to the communities that have collected it. It is not
really in use right now though. By default it does use hot: as the
prefix in a JOSM preset to determine the data is uploaded, but this is a
configurable setting in the system. For any data to be uploaded to the
Datastore instead of to OSM the person has to be using JOSM and has to
have the appropriate plugin installed/enabled.

Best,

-Kate

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Markware Software Services
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Pierre, you should be asleep by now :) Hope the Snow is not too
    deep either :)

    I did not know about that the HOT Private Store. Is that rendered on
    the OSm Layer or otherwise available? Would be interested in knowing
    a little bit more about that.

    Selecting objects in Sql is very dependent on the indexing. using +
    or <> with an index is very efficient. Using Like "haiyan%" can be
    reasonably fast if the data in the tag starts with the term you are
    searching for (eg: "haiyan") (case conversion will have an impact
    depending on the size of the string).

    If your search term is in the middle of the key data, eg; "damaged:
    haiyan: debris" it will be VERY slow as that will trigger a
    sequential scan

    I have my own planetosm database, if the crisis is not a seperate
    tag, ie, embedded within one tags data, I would set a trigger on the
    update that extracted the crisis name, eg: haiyan, and stored it in
    an indexable column. This is not particularly efficient, but I would
    have no choice as I think it is very important to be able to extract
    data specific to a Crisis.

    If you think about Overpass Queries, they would also not handle the
    data embedded in the tag particularly well, I am sure they could do
    it, but it would be subject to the same issue above.

    One possible solution would be to use the Postgres HStore, which is
    basically a text field. Postgres does have a unique ability to index
    data withing the hstore, but I would not use this method on my
    production database.

    Osm does have these tags already defined, I am sure you are aware

      * building:condition
        <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:condition>=*
        /for the condition of the building/
      * ruins <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ruins>=* - /for
        ruins of buildings/
      * abandoned <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned>=* -
        /for a building /


    My thought would to NOT use these, as the fact that a building was
    tagged as abandoned is relevant in assessing if you want to assess
    it in a Humanitarian Crisis.






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    On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Pierre Béland <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Mark

        About the prefix hot:, this is reserved for the HOT private
        store. Adding this prefix to objects in JOSM, the objects are
        saved in the HOT private store.
        Pierre

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        *De :* Pierre Béland <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *À :* Markware Software Services <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Cc :* HOT Openstreetmap <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>; S Volk <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Envoyé le :* Jeudi 22 janvier 2015 22h30
        *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Damage evaluation tagging schema

        Hi Mark

        I agree, we have to consider also aspects like how easy to
        extract for an event. For Haiyan, we had a specific tag. But
        what, if it would have be necessary to add tags recently for
        Hagupit?

        About SQL queries, are-they any efficient way (time related) to say
        select objects where key contains "haiyan" ?
        Pierre



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