Hello all, and thank you all for your enthusiasm in moving this project forward
with us. We met here at Stanford, yesterday, and below I am pasting the summary
of Eric's Bangla schedule, the job and some of our questions/requests for
advice. You can find the original posting for help at the bottom of this
thread. We would, of course, like to get a project in Task Manager as soon as
possible so we can try to promote it and begin work.
Stace
Eric Nelson, the PI on the project in Kendua, will be arriving in Dhaka on
Saturday night, the 20th of February. He will be in Dhaka until the 23rd, and
would like to meet with HOT/OSM Mappers interested in assisting and
coordinating training and the mapping effort, in Kendua. On the 23rd, he will
be going to Netrokona/Kendua and will be there until the 27th. We are hoping to
have some rough prototype of our workflow (using already existing data, though
there is very little) by then, for him to discuss with the health workers in
the pilot hospitals/clinics.
Eric is hoping to meet with OSM/HOT mappers in Dhaka and/or Netrokona/Kendua to
develop a plan for trainings with locals who may be able to help with the
mapping effort. Obviously, the mapping of some of the features we are
interested in (see below) will require local knowledge and on-the-ground
efforts. As we are looking to launch the actual pilot study hospitals in early
May, this trip will essentially be Eric’s only opportunity to meet and
coordinate trainings, efforts before that time.
What we are interested is the capture of some level of geographic information
about the home location of patients admitted for diarrheal disease. We have
some up with three possible scenarios for capturing the data we want. Scenario
#1 is to use a tilecached version of the OSM map (stored locally in the app)
resulting from the work we have been discussing, and have health workers ask
patients/family for the home location. The health worker would zoom into the
area imputed inside the app (this is actually a very minor component of an app
that is primarily geared to assessing and providing guidance on treatment for
diarrheal disease), and set the location that way, then move on to assessment
of the patient. Scenario 2&3 are essentially the same scenario, but using
field-papers.org at two different scales. In scenario 2, we have an “altas” of
Kendua printed and laminated on the usual 8.5x11 paper, but arranged to create
a giant wall map, hanging in the hospital. The health worker asks patient or
family to indicate home location and marks the map with a dry erase marker,
then photographs the maps sheet that was marked, embedding the photo in the
database for later processing. Scenario 3 is, somehow, printing a VERY large
(4x5 feet) field-papers-type wallmap and using essentially the same method as
#2. In #2 we are worried about the Field-papers margins causing confusion in
the map, at the smaller scale.
We are likely to adopt scenario #1, with either 2 or 3 as the less tech
dependent backup.
We’ve discussed the level of detail we would like to achieve. Currently, there
is NOTHING being recorded for this so, really, any level of geographic tag
would be useful to use. Eric indicates that even as coarse as the
Union/Paurashava would be useful, though better data is better data. Patient
privacy is a concern, we will not be interested in specific household level
detail. Indication of home location relative to landmarks like places of
worship, schools, clinics, markets, etc… would all be sufficient. The reporting
of data will likely be in aggregate, probably at the Union/Paurashava.
We think that mapping of the following is of most utility:
*
primary, secondary or tertiary for main roads connecting towns
*
residential inside residential boundaries
*
tracks and paths
*
Major hydrologic features
Secondary to that, mapping:
*
clusters of residential buildings to indicate residential landuse
Finally, if possible, capturing the specific location of the following will be
useful
*
places of worship
*
schools
*
hospitals, clinics & pharmacies
*
markets and other landmarks
*
Drinking Water Sources
Another point we have concerns about is the use of this type of map with
patients and their ability to interpret and locate their home communities. As
different cultures typically recognize and use different “topographic
handrails” to situate themselves in various urban, rural and wilderness
landscapes, we are eager to have input on any examples of use of this type of
mapping and the levels of success for the purpose we are proposing. We welcome
any suggestions/comments on the possible efficacy of the approach, or the set
of landmarks we have chosen to focus upon.
Finally, we would love any input/assistance in creating the
Instructions/Description for the Task Manager, and deploying/promoting the
project. I’ve been looking at some of the Missing Maps projects and they seem
to have a well developed template/protocol for deploying HOT tasks. We’d love
to have our project area adopted as a Missing Maps promoted project. We are
also looking forward to the trial phase of the study, which will be deployed on
a larger region, probably the Netrokona region, as a whole.
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
staceymaples@G+
Skype: stacey.maples
Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ahasanul Hoque" <[email protected]>
To: "Mikel Maron" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Stace Maples" <[email protected]>, "Jorieke Vyncke"
<[email protected]>, "Pete Masters" <[email protected]>,
[email protected], "Eric Jorge Nelson" <[email protected]>, "Fred
Moine" <[email protected]>, "Kunce Dale" <[email protected]>, "Claudia A.
Engel" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2015 9:22:39 PM
Subject: Re: [HOT] Request for help/guidance on a project to test diarrheal
disease interventions in Kendua Sub-District, Bangladesh.
Hi Stace and Mikel,
FYI, Kendua is a sub district (upazila) of Netrokona District. Kendua also
divided in 14 subdivision (13 unions and 1 Paurashava/municipalty). Here I have
attached the boundaries and kmz of all for your convenience. I tried to upload
in umap but couldnt. Hope Mikel could do it for me.
Best regards
Ahasan
.....................................................................................
Ahasanul Hoque
GIS & Environmental Data Mgt Specialist
WSP, The World Bank.
MSc in RS and GIS | AIT, Thailand. MSc. in Env. Science| KU, Bangladesh.
Diploma in Disaster Mgt & Humanitarian Response |
Uni of Hawai-USA, UNU, Keio& Okayama - Japan; AIT-Thailand .
Contact: [email protected] ; [email protected] |
Web: ahasanulhoque.com
Skype: ahasan4u | Linkedin: http://tinyurl.com/njg3xsp
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Mikel Maron < [email protected] > wrote:
Stace
I updated the coordination map of all Bangla projects with the boundary of
Kendua
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/bangladesh-mapping-projects_26815#8/23.612/89.742
-Mikel
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
On Sunday, February 1, 2015 1:33 PM, Stacey Maples < [email protected] >
wrote:
<blockquote>
Thanks all. Here is the Umap for our pilot study area:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/kendua_27641#11/24.6913/90.7841 , as I
understand from Eric, patients arrive at the subdistrict medical center from
within the Kendua District, but I wonder if there might be some spillover from
adjacent subdistricts (also, please correct my admin boundary terminology, if
necessary), based upon travel times. TO account for that, it might make sense
to work on a slightly larger envelope than Kendua.
Yes, I agree on the building footprints being secondary. Our primary objective
is to build a map that will provide a familiar enough reference for local
health care workers and family members to identify the home village/community
of the patients, without being present at the location, as care will be
primarily given outside of the home community. Obviously, roads, paths and
probably (I am only guessing as I have never been to Bangladesh) water courses
would be most important for reference. I have seen some HOT jobs identifying
"residential or populated" areas, which might also be useful, short of building
footprints. In our discussions, we identified schools, places of worship,
markets, etc... as other landmarks that might help users orient. So if we move
to creating building footprints, those would be of primary importance. We are
also interested in the locations of pharmacies, and clinics/hospitals and other
healthcare points of service.
Finally, and I know this one would require people on the ground with GPS, it
would be incredibly useful to identify drinking water facilities/sources.
Mikel suggested establishing an OSM Bangla Skype Group to coordinate. I've just
logged into my Skype account for the first time in years, so it is active. I
will make sure I have a Skype client installed on all of my machines by
tomorrow. My Skype= stacey.maples
Again, this response is fantastic. Thanks so much.
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
staceymaples@G+
Skype: stacey.maples
Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
From: "Jorieke Vyncke" < [email protected] >
To: "Pete Masters" < [email protected] >
Cc: "Stace Maples" < [email protected] >, [email protected] , "Eric
Jorge Nelson" < [email protected] >, "Fred Moine" < [email protected]
>, "Kunce Dale" < [email protected] >
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 2:05:12 AM
Subject: Re: [HOT] Request for help/guidance on a project to test diarrheal
disease interventions in Kendua Sub-District, Bangladesh.
Hi Stace and Eric,
Pete is talking about the same people as I did to you before. Some of our
Bangladesh mappers are now also on this list... But I will sent you a follow up
mail on this.
Further I like very much your idea, and would like to give you some input.
Talking out of my experience; to trace patients, not necessarily all buildings
are needed in the first phase. To track patients the main important this is to
be able to locate people. So this means collecting locally used neighbourhood
names, locally used street names,
and landmarks used by the people. Buildings are in my view then a second step.
I don't know how big the area is you're focused on? Maybe you can quickly point
it on a Umap for us? Fingers crossed, for good imagery in the area of
interest...
Also I was thinking it might be good to set up an OSM Bangla Skype group to try
to coordinate all the upcoming projects a little bit. Lastly there was also
interest of Terre des Hommes, the American Red Cross is going to do more things
in spring,... So we can coordinate a bit and share resources and thoughts on
mapping in the very particular context of Bangladesh. Please let me know if you
are interested in this.
Best greetings,
Jorieke
2015-01-31 9:55 GMT+01:00 Pete Masters < [email protected] > :
<blockquote>
Hi Stace, I have just come back from Dhaka (literally on Thursday), where we
were working with the local OSM community to map two areas, Kamrangirchar and
Hazaribagh, for the Missing Maps project. We worked with between 10-30
volunteers of varying skills each day for two weeks. They are a smart and
enthusiastic bunch and most said they planned to keep mapping anyway. They all
have experience in using field papers and surveys and Osmand, and most have at
least a days experience using JOSM to edit / upload.
I have email addresses and phone numbers if you want them or you can contact
them via the OpenStreetMap Bangladesh Facebook page.
There are also a number of very experienced mappers / OSM focused GIS people I
can put you in touch with directly.
Let me know what you think...
Cheers,
Pete
On 30 Jan 2015 21:38, "Stacey Maples" < [email protected] > wrote:
<blockquote>
All,
I'm working with a faculty member studying the efficacy of mobile app based
interventions, who needs detailed street and building footprints for his pilot.
He is working in the Kendua sub-district of Bangladesh, initially, and needs
data for health workers to use to identify cholera patients homes/home village,
pharmacies, etc... I've pasted his abstract, below. If he finds efficacy, he
will likely expand the project to other sub-districts. We are wondering several
things:
First, what is the process to have a project added to the Task Manager?
Second, do you happen to currently have mappers in this area who could work on
this?
Finally, we may be able to obtain gps traces from food delivery drivers to
upload to OSM. It would be great to have a training for them if there are
mappers in the area, or in Dhaka who would be willing to travel. Wondering who
to contact about the possibility of that (I know bulk uploads are frowned upon
unless coordinated with OSM).
Thanks in advance for your time, I've pasted the abstract for the project,
below my signature.
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
staceymaples@G +
Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
Leveraging mobile technology to improve clinical outcomes and scientific
research of the second leading cause of childhood death: diarrheal disease
Abstract
Diarrheal disease is the second leading cause of death among children under 5
years of age globally. We are specifically interested in the diarrheal disease
cholera because of the devastating impact the disease has on at-risk
populations and the emerging opportunities to leverage mobile technology to
overcome fundamental clinical, epidemiologic, and scientific challenges.
Despite effective treatments and advances in provider education, cholera case
fatality rates remain unacceptably high. Conventional methods have been unable
to overcome barriers to provide patients timely access to care in resource-poor
settings. This is especially true early in outbreaks because response teams are
slow to mobilize and cholera can infect, transmit and kill in less than 20
hours. Our research challenge is to take an unconventional approach to develop
a new method using mobile technology to identify outbreak clusters early,
improve care, and advance our basic understanding of the disease. The specific
aims of this project are to (i) develop mobile technology for clinical decision
support and real-time epidemiology, (ii) test the mobile-technology and
determine microbial correlates to disease progression at the hospital level,
and (iii) test the mobile-technology and determine microbial correlates to
disease progression at the community level. We chose to develop and test this
strategy in partnership with the Ministry of Health of Bangladesh at a site
with high cholera morbidity and relatively high mortality. We anticipate this
NIH funded research will provide an exciting cross-departmental forum for
collaboration and training, as well as a pathway to discovery that will
directly benefit populations inflicted with diseases like cholera.
Eric Jorge Nelson, MD PhD
Pediatric Global Health Physician Scientist Instructor,
Division of Infectious Diseases Department of Pediatrics,
Stanford University School of Medicine
Email: [email protected]
Telephone: (857)-492-2174
Address: Beckman B241, School of Medicine, Stanford, California 94305-5323
In F,L&T,
Stace Maples
Geospatial Manager
Stanford Geospatial Center
@mapninja
staceymaples@G+
Get GeoHelp: https://gis.stanford.edu/
"I have a map of the United States... actual size.
It says, "Scale: 1 mile = 1 mile."
I spent last summer folding it."
-Steven Wright-
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