"Needs another look?" maybe, both incomplete and invalid are slightly negative. I like the idea of sending someone a more positive message when their tiles have been validated, could it include the comment by the validator?
Cheerio John On 25 March 2015 at 11:27, James Conkling <james.lane.conkl...@gmail.com> wrote: > 'incomplete' instead of 'invalid'? > > I'll be honest, I've never validated a task b/c I thought you needed a > certain level of 'certification' (even informally). > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> This is kind of a very subtle point, but I have written about it before: >> >> I find it difficult to validate tiles because they so often need more >> work and are not really "done". >> >> That leaves me with these choices: >> >> 1. Do the mapping myself, which I usually do, but then I have less time >> for validating tiles. >> >> 2. Mark the tile "invalid" and know that a new mapper is going to get an >> email saying their work has been "invalidated." I never do this unless it >> was clearly marked done as a mistake. >> >> 3. Unlock the tile and leave it as is for someone else to deal with. I do >> this more often than I care to admit. >> >> I think we could do 1 or 2 things that would make the process a bit >> better: >> >> 1. We could change the term from "invalid", a somewhat strong term in >> English and what I consider "de-motivating". I can't think of one word, but >> we need something more friendly like "Needs more mapping" >> >> 2. Not send notices for "invalidated" tasks, and instead send >> notifications for "validated" tasks. I think mappers would be more >> motivated by getting positive feedback than negative feedback. >> >> We could probably data mine the answer, but I wonder how many mappers who >> marked a tile "done" (often not even the person who did the mapping) and >> get an "invalidated" notice go then back and do the corrective mapping. >> >> I think option 2 would be very easy to implement. I know I would do more >> validations and tiles that needed more mapping might get more mapping if I >> didn't have to worry about discouraging new mappers by "invalidating" tasks. >> >> On a related note: I would encourage anyone who is doing training at >> missing maps or mapping parties to let mappers know, "invalidated" is >> totally fine and really just means "needs more mapping". >> >> Cheers, >> Blake >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 3/25/2015 2:51 AM, Daniel Specht wrote: >> >>> Lots of projects are mapped quickly, but validated slowly. This could >>> be because >>> (A) beginners don't feel qualified to pass judgement >>> (B) people don't like to pass judgement >>> (C) doing original work is more fun than reviewing someone else's work. >>> >>> I have a couple suggestions for encouraging validation. >>> >>> 1. Include instructions for validation on the instructions tab. >>> Because the instructions tab only has mapping instructions, readers >>> may think that validation is for someone else to do. >>> >>> 2. Include validation statistics on the stats tab. >>> Because the stats tab only has statistics for tiles completed, >>> mappers may think that validating tiles is not essential. Also, these >>> statistics give the mapper, but not the validator, a psychological >>> reward. I've been validating a lot of tiles -- sometimes I seem to be >>> doing most of the validations on a project -- and even though seeing the >>> number by your name increment isn't the biggest thrill in the world, I >>> have to admit that I miss it.. >>> -- >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >
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