John -- This could be excellent feedback for their survey design. Especially important are the questions that do not have a way to enter the "real" answer or that suggest a category of answer, e.g. "where do you map?", where my answer is similar to yours -- wherever the requests come in from -or- what event is in the news (and I go looking for a corresponding HOT task). I was also thinking, as you did, that it would be an advantage to them to try out mapping first -- get on the mailing list, see how tasks are announced and pitched, talk to people...and *then* compose the survey questions. It is probably not too late now to improve the questions, since they are just starting.
-- Pat One of the problems with surveys is selection criteria of the sample and > having picked your sample the response rate. Working for a few years at > Statistics Canada you get indoctrinated with this stuff. I think it was > something they slipped into the coffee. > > Looking at the questions they are coming from a particular angle and it > shows. One question is what do you map. The answer is basically whatever > is requested in the HOT project. One question they didn't ask is why do > you choose to map a particular project? They seem to be hung up on which > part of the world you are mapping which to be honest I've not much idea. I > even looked at the list of HOT projects I'd mapped and tried to correlate > them to the names in the survey. I don't think I got a good match. Some > projects where probably in areas that they were after but I didn't > recognise them as such. There is such a thing as respondent burden and > asking people to say if they have mapped in an area without giving the > project numbers is asking for trouble. If I look at my HOT mapping there > are basically two types, one I dig into a project and do 50-250 tiles and > others where I might do one or two tiles. Do they give equal weight to an > area that I've mapped 250 tiles in to one I've mapped one tile in? I just > either respond to an urgent priority request, or curiosity, or I have a > small collection of projects that I'm slowly mapping in slow time that have > good imagery to map from and project instructions that I think I can > manage. I'm still hopeless at deciding what purpose a building is from a > satellite image unless the natives have been out with a paint brush on the > roof and painted what it is before the satellite flies by. > > The other thing that might be interesting to know is which projects have > people on the ground to do a better job of tagging. Street names aren't > visible from on high but that's another survey. > > I wonder how much information they could have got straight from HOT > without asking the questions? HOT gives you the list of projects and the > number of tiles which roughly corresponds to how much mapping you do. The > OSM profile gives more information. You might not get all the information > requested but the response rate would be much better which means the > quality of the data would be higher. > > It's not a bad survey but I get the impression that if they had done some > HOT mapping first they might have a better understanding of how the system > works and they would have got more meaningful data. For example we know > that in some areas there is an educated population that we can tap into. > Bangladesh, the Philippines etc. and often the local mappers are heavily > involved in the HOT mapping in some case providing as much as 75% of the > mapping. In other areas such as Africa there is less Internet > availability, computer knowledge and fewer people who are familiar with > computers and JOSM so in those cases we can expect that most mapping will > be done remotely with local tagging hopefully later on. > > Cheerio John > > On 12 April 2015 at 17:19, Charlotte Wolter <[email protected]> wrote: > >> John, >> >> I'm sure the universsity of legit. I'm just not sure about these >> guys. >> I'd feel better if they had a university URL. In fact, I think >> that's >> basic, if the survey is what they claim. >> >> Charlotte >> >> >> At 11:58 AM 4/12/2015, you wrote: >> >> I opened the link and did the survey. Looks legitimate. >> I have various bits of software that check for things. >> It would probably be more secure if it didn't ask for >> javascript to be enabled, and I'd be happier with a >> https connection. >> Cheerio >> John >> >> On 12 April 2015 at 14:27, Charlotte Wolter <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Dear folks, >> >>         I just received this. Because there was no advance notice >> of any kind, >>         I'm inclined to think that it is malware. I certainly do >> not intend to open >>         the link to their "survey." >>         Does anyone know if this is legit? >> >> Charlotte >> >> >> Delivered-To: [email protected] >> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:49:49 +0200 >> From: Simon Köbel < [email protected]> >> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], >>  [email protected], [email protected], >> [email protected] , >>  [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] >> , >>  [email protected] >> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], >>  [email protected] , [email protected], >> [email protected], >>  [email protected] >> Subject: Survey Goethe-University Frankfurt a. M. Department of Human >>  Geography >> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.7) >> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.105:25 >> X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=BddW09d2 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 >> a=DB0hE7zaO8GYUp/YqmXQew==:117 a=L6JYQDRwKfT6WHSe8sfJEQ==:17 >> a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=0oj8HZZGiqAA:10 a=Uq6AcsZLS54A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 >> a=TZb1taSUAAAA:8 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=dUtWRZAB1rDCoh9MlMwA:9 >> a=t3EATtysssYA:10 a=pqBOpMw80UEA:10 a=HUgb82FdLOAA:10 a=4jgzO3SvAAAA:8 >> a=9JZl8Z5Rb4aRWHZ3PxMA:9 a=sRm4CvaEybql6p0r:21 a=5b220iivvY8iID98:21 >> a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=H7hU10Xv6RopqlgE:21 a=3BXgA0xEnxOp-_uY:21 >> a=HkkR7HrTyMYTXfvy:21 >> X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 >> >> Dear HOT-Users, >> >> We are a group of social-geography students at the >> Department of Human Geography at the Goethe-University >> Frankfurt a.M. and would like to ask for your assistance >> in our student research project about Volunteered Geographic >> Information Systems in general and Humanitarian OpenStreetMap >> Team in particular. >> >> We would be interested in conducting a survey among all >> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap participants, about their experiences >> with Humanitarian OpenStreetMap and their motivation to >> particpate in Humanitarian OpenStreetMap. >> One of the main aspects we want to examine is how the >> respondents are related to the areas they map for Humanitarian >> OpenStreetMap and to determine their socio-demographic >> background. >> This survey is supposed to be the centerpiece of our research >> project so we would be very thankful for your cooperation. >> >> We chose your mail adress from the HOT mailing list to help us >> optimize our work with a pretest, if you have some time to spare. >> >> If you click the link below and answer the questions in the survey >> and maybe give some feedback at the end of it, we will be able to >> find possible errors in our survey design. As mentioned before, this >> is a pretest, so if you like you can still participate in the final >> survey we will hopefully send out in a couple of weeks so we can >> work with the interesting answers and insights you might give to us. >> >> Here you will find the link to our anonymous survey >> >> hot.geomedienlabor.de >> >> >> For reference about our research project we would like to refer you to >> our lecturer, David Burger ( [email protected]). >> >> We would gladly share the results of our research project with you. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Simon Köbel, Dominik Wehner, Lucas Wenzel, Fabian Will >> >> >> Charlotte Wolter >> 927 18th Street Suite A >> Santa Monica, California >> 90403 >> +1-310-597-4040 >> [email protected] >> Skype: thetechlady >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> >> >> >> Charlotte Wolter >> 927 18th Street Suite A >> Santa Monica, California >> 90403 >> +1-310-597-4040 >> [email protected] >> Skype: thetechlady >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >
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