Hi HOT,

with this message I’m not particularly answering the previous one rather than 
intending to jump on that topic due to some misunderstandings I got notified by 
concerned users via private message (which I’ll post here), on which a little 
clarification is needed. If the following issues are clarified elsewhere, I’d 
like to thank you for that notice in advance and excuse any double posting.


Some OSM mapper wrote to me:

Hi I'd like to let you know that the Task #658 
(http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1018#task/658) is a complete mess thanks to 
you and a few other users. Why don't you read the instructions before starting 
to work on the map? You've entered thousand of buildings as nodes, when 
instruction states that buildings has to be entered as polygons and now someone 
is going to waste precious time in order to correct your errors. I hope this 
was your only mistake. I'm not going to waste any more time by writing to you; 
please, read carefully the instructions BEFORE any edit.

Have a nice one Regards


I’d like to post my reasons to this list so that
it can be validated by all and
further misunderstandings can hopefully be avoided



Hello […],

Thank you for your friendly notice and for honoring OSM volunteer work.

You're definitely right proposing to trace buildings as areas.

Hence, I am fully aware that I created information what you might consider a 
lack of quality.

However, the reasons for registering buildings like I did are these:
I was working on an HOT task (in case you don't know, please see [1]). 
Buildings are not part of the main objective of this task, which is rather to 
find flat spaces suitable for potential helicoper landings among others.
Regarding my paradigm of contributing to OSM data more generally, I tend to 
improve data quality in several iterations, this means to break up the task 
into various pieces (which of course have to be consistent), if it isn't 
justifiable to solve the task as an one-off (cf. 1.). The first iteration in 
the given case would be to register buildings as quickly as possible. 
Technically spoken, in JOSM, I copy one building node and then per instance 
point the mouse cursor on the right spot while pasting. You're right when you 
call this far from perfect, but it's something me or others can start from 
later. And regarding the schema [2], attributing a single node looks fairly 
valid to me. Tracing the building as an area would therefore be part of the 
next iteration step since some exact adjustment is required per object, which 
renders the effort many times higher.
If you've got any remarks or further questions, please don't hesitate to state 
them.

Cheers and happy mapping

Klaus / k127

References:

[1] http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1026#task/114
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building



Cheers

Klaus / k127



Am 04.05.2015 um 01:50 schrieb Brad Neuhauser <[email protected]>:

> 
> On Sunday, May 3, 2015, Dan S <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi -
> 
> 2015-05-03 22:03 GMT+01:00 Phil Allford <[email protected]>:
> > 1. Should I delete the single node tag for a house when I trace a building?
> > JOSM warns of object within object... I left the original tags.
> 
> Yes, delete it - it's important not to lose any extra tags that might
> be there, so make sure of that (but in many cases it's just
> building=yes or whatever).
> 
> Advanced JOSM users like to merge the old node into one of the new
> building's nodes, moving the tags from node to way, so that the
> object's history is "connected". Don't feel obliged to do that if it's
> tricksy.
> 
> Probably most new users aren't using Potlatch, but for anyone that is, you 
> can convert from node to area and keep all tags by selecting the node, then 
> shift-clicking where you want another corner to be. 
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