HI Suzan, I think the summary is very good heather
Heather Leson [email protected] Twitter: HeatherLeson Blog: textontechs.com On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Suzan Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > Is everyone clear about exactly what data is needed, and the purpose(s) of > sending an email and the survey? It's a great marketing opportunity. > > An email with a survey can have several goals: > to thank people for their participation, > to nudge them to participate more, > and to gather key data. > > I'm probably just missing this information so please excuse if this is > already stated somewhere. > > Suzan > > > > On May 20, 2015, at 6:06 PM, john whelan wrote: > > The numbers were merely as an illustration. Perhaps I should have said > 100 changesets rather than edits. The precise number to use really needs to > be determined, and is not in my area of expertise but the principle is I > think we're interested in different groups of users in different ways. > > For new mappers I think its more what can we do to improve the experience > both to get a bit more useful mapping from you and second to tempt you > back, there is a lot more HOT mapping than Nepal. > > For experienced mappers my personal view is again what can we do to help > and can we nudge you into doing some validation. > > Having worked at Stats Can for a few years some of their methodology has > rubbed off, and one bit was never ask a question if you can find out the > answer in another way, it gives people the chance to be economical with > the truth. > > Cheerio John > > On 20 May 2015 at 20:11, john o'l <[email protected]> wrote: > As an inexperienced OSM mapper, yet someone who believes that there is > merit in the HOT approach, I found that I was frustrated for much of the > time I tried to participate according to instructions and by following > pointers and tracking down relevant resources. My participation during the > few days I spent on this track far exceeded the specific thresholds > mentioned earlier of “one session in Nepal and …less than 5 edits in OSM” > and “experienced in OSM say greater than 100 edits.” For the record, > according to a list published a couple of weeks ago I did more than 30 > changesets and 1800 edits over 6 days. I’d wager that a substantial > proportion of them didn’t meet preferred standards for validation. I also > know that there were a few instances where I just bailed once I got error > messages regarding the operation of the editor window itself or after my > attempt to save a chunk of changes got thwarted somehow. > > > Anyway, keeping this short to maintain focus on the numbers being used to > classify and focus certain sets of questions… they seem low to me, but it > is possible that I’m exceptionally bull-headed and dense. And no worries, > you'll probably have an opportunity to hear more of my feedback once the > Nepal activation sprint transitions more completely into a marathon. > > > > Cheers, > > John > > > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes it would be an idea to classify people and send a different url for > - 1 day edit > - less then xxx edits > - others > > We would also know how many answered in each of these groups while > respecting anonymity. > > Pierre > > De : john whelan <[email protected]> > À : Pierre Béland <[email protected]> > Cc : Heather Leson <[email protected]>; "HOT@OSM (Humanitarian > OpenStreetMap Team)" <[email protected]> > Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 mai 2015 18h48 > > Objet : Re: [HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey > > You should be able to get a list of HOT /OSM ids with the data attached. > Now extract from this those who have only done one session in Nepal and > have less than 5 edits in OSM. > > When you send out the questionnaire to this group you send them a link to > the full version. > > For those who are experienced in OSM say greater than 100 edits send them > a link which omits the training questions. Etc. > > If you can find someone to code it it is technically possible that when > you send the link you also send the email address embedded in the link. > > Hopefully that makes it a bit clearer. > > Cheerio John > > > > > > On 20 May 2015 at 18:34, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote: > John > > This will work only with the people that accept to provide their identity > and osm nickname. > > > Pierre > > De : john whelan <[email protected]> > À : Heather Leson <[email protected]> > Cc : "HOT@OSM (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team)" <[email protected]> > Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 mai 2015 17h54 > Objet : Re: [HOT] DRAFT- HOT Nepal Response Community Survey > > It appears my comments on email addresses were not understood clearly. > > If we do an extract on OSM and HOT we can identify people who have mapped > in OSM before, those who have mapped on only one occasion in Nepal etc. In > other words if we only send the relevant questions to a group of email > addresses who we know have never mapped before then we can tailor the > questions specifically to them. Or have two or three versions of the > questionnaire one for each group we are interested in. The other method is > to pick up their email address, there are methods to do this by passing the > information in the link to the questionnaire. If you use that method then > link the email address to the questionnaire you can then link it to other > information from HOT and OSM. However this method may run into privacy law > considerations in various countries unless you ask permission. > > Asking an experienced mapper say one with a hundred plus edits in OSM what > they think of the training is probably a waste of time, they probably > didn't look at it. However by asking them the question you have added to > respondent burden. If you know the answer or can deduce it then first its > probably more accurate, people do not always answer truthfully, second the > normal rule of surveys is take up the minimum time necessary to get the > information you require. > > Can you get the person's country from their OSM profile? etc. Can we get > their preferred language from their OSM profile? > > Another issue is if you are going to host the questionnaire on Hackpad or > Dropbox then you may lose some respondents who will not agree to giving up > their list of email contacts to dropbox should they elect to sign in using > something like Google sign in. Typically these may represent a group of > users you might be interested in. > > Cheerio John > > On 19 May 2015 at 12:38, Heather Leson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > HI Folks, A few of us have been working hard to create a HOT Nepal > Response Community Survey. We have collected input from working groups and > activation leads. With so many new contributors and deep engagement at all > levels, we really heard your comments on the list and see the future > opportunities. > > The final version is not ready yet, but we are close. Take a look and add > some comments. Note: it is our goal to be as brief as possible to respect > people's time. > > https://hackpad.com/HOT-Nepal-Response-Community-Survey-pOlKdatnSk2 > > Tyler, Heather and the team are aiming to send this far and wide by May > 21st. > > > (Note: this is the first time we have ever done a formal HOT community > survey. We do want to improve and hope that your input once the survey will > help you grow HOT. Stay tuned for when it is live.) > > Also, if you want to be part of the data analytics (post survey team), > please let us know > > Thanks! > > Heather on behalf of the team > > > Heather Leson > [email protected] > Twitter: HeatherLeson > Blog: textontechs.com > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >
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