On 22/01/16 20:57, Jo wrote: > Hi Rafael, > > I understand where the requirement for the separate account is coming > from, but I will always consider it too much of a hassle to switch. And > in my case I would be switching continuously. > > So, I'll limit myself to validating the tiles. I hope it's all right to > add some of the buildings in that stage. I'm also automating the > creation of wikidata entries and linking from OSM to WD and back.
Yes. Of course it's completely fine to add buildings. Just do that as a normal mapping (with your regular account). Just write the comment for the changeset forgetting about the comment "Uganda Bureau Of Statistics Education Facilities Import, #hotosm-project-1434", use your own comment, like "Added buildings to several schools, etc.", and source=Bing or Mapbox or whatever. And likewise for the Wikidata. > > I don't promise that I'll do that for all 24000 of them though. If you did, we would have to erect a monument in your honour somewhere in Uganda! :D Cheers, Rafael. > > Cheers, > > Jo > > 2016-01-22 20:39 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > Hi, Jo: > > Thanks for your comments and help. Find my comments inline: > > On 22/01/16 08:34, Jo wrote: >> Hi Rafael, > >> Great that you got this started. Of course I managed to get the use >> of import and not import account mixed up, as JOSM doesn't warn me >> or give the option to switch in a convenient way. So the imported >> node will probably have to be removed once again and the buildings >> I added in a second go, are now uploaded with that silly import >> account. > > Don't worry. I have reverted that "one node" changeset, and added > again the school node with my edvac_import account. > > Apart from using your regular account, you uploaded the school without > the import changesets: source=www.ubos.org <http://www.ubos.org> > (you put source=Bing), > source:date=2010..2014, import=yes and > url=https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities > > This has happened to other users in the past, so don't worry. Just > remember to upload only school nodes (nothing else) with your > Polyglot_import account, adding those changeset tags, and don't forget > to switch back to your Polyglot regular account, so you don't use your > import account for this import. > > Having to use a dedicated user account for every import is a > requirement of the Import guidelines [1]: step 6.5: "You must use a > dedicated user account." > > I think this requirement should be waived for crowsourced manual > imports like this, but that is not something we should discuss here, > but in the imports list. For the time being we have to comply with the > community agreements we have in the import guidelines. > > This import is ***ONLY*** for school nodes. So we aren't adding > buildings at this stage. But even if we wanted to add buildings, > access road, etc, we would have done it in a different changeset, and > with the ***regular account***, not the ***import account***, because > buildings and road accesses aren't UBOS data, but derived directly > from Bing, Mapbox, GPS traces, etc. > > If you can't live without adding school buildings, just make sure you > do it in a second changeset after uploading the schools, but using > your regular account. > > >> Sorry for the rant, what follows should be more interesting: > >> Anyway, what I'm missing are the isced tags. Also the process >> seems overly complicated to me. It's easier to skip the "Edit with >> JOSM' button and go straight to the first "here" link. Then >> download manually. > > As this import doesn't need to touch any OSM object, except > educational facilities already present in OSM that may have to be > merged with the UBOS ones, you can optionally, if you find it better, > to download OSM data manually after downloading the UBOS data. Only > make sure you download an area of at least 500+ m around every UBOS > node, so you make sure you download every OSM educational facilities > that may have to be merged with UBOS nodes. > > I didn't add the isced:level tags as it would be difficult to add them > authomatically with the info we had. But we can add them in subsequent > TM projects, like also the wikidata, etc. > > >> To find the new buildings, the filter method works, but Ctrl-f > >> inview new Then tick the box:: 'add toolbar button' > >> is a lot more convenient, with a shiny new button on the task bar. > >> You can also create another button like this with: > >> inview (school | university | kindergarten) > >> if you add "-new" to that, you can easily find all the existing >> ones. > > This is very nice. As soon as I can (hope before the end of tomorrow), > I will add it to the workflow wiki. It's a great idea!! > > >> Oh, for people mapping remotely, there is a local community in >> Kampala. It's best to leave those schools for them, since they have >> local knowledge about them and since it's harder to figure out >> which buildings belong to the school for those from aerial imagery >> alone. I think that's worthy of a note in the instructions. > > Yes! That's right! If the local Uganda OSM community tell me so, we > could even remove all Kampala nodes, and transfer them to another > dedicated TM project, dedicated only for on the ground mappers. > > >> Kind regards, > >> Jo > > Cheers and thank you very much! > > Rafael. > > [1] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Step_6_-_Uploading > > >> 2016-01-22 0:06 GMT+01:00 Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>: > >> Hi all: > >> A new manual import through the Tasking Manager is open for >> experienced mappers, this time for the import of 24,587 >> educational facilities (nurseries, primary and secondary schools, >> colleges...) all around Uganda. > >> As the total number of nodes is very high, it was decided not to >> add any contextual data as it was done in previous imports, >> starting with the Central African Rep. UNICEF import. We will be >> able to add contextual data, like facilities road access, >> facilities buildings, settlement names (derived from the facilities >> addr:* tags), wikidata tags, etc., after the import is finished, or >> maybe even during the import, but with another TM project/s. > >> Everyone is welcome to contribute, but specially the Uganda OSM >> community. > >> You can find the detailed workflow wiki for this import here [1]. >> ***READING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WIKI IS A MUST***, before you >> start importing facilities. > >> At the beginning of the workflow wiki you have a Quick Reference, >> so you don't have to read the whole wiki everytime you need to >> recall the import steps. > >> Keep in mind that changesets that don't follow the rules >> (negociated with the Uganda OSM community and the imports list) >> will have to be reverted. Specially important is to use a dedicated >> OSM account (not the regular account you use for regular mapping), >> and to add the specific changeset tags of this import. > >> You should also read the official import wiki [2], specially for >> tagging reference. > >> Happy mapping! > >> Rafael. > >> [1] > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities_Workflow > >> [2] > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities > >> _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
