Hey all, please dampen down the conspiracy theories, personal bitterness and
politics. There are ways to ask questions with out being damning, and to share
perspectives without lowering ourselves to populist rhetoric and smearing.
Let’s try better. The etiquette page on the wiki is a good read to get our
conversations on the right footing
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette. Thanks -Mikel * Mikel Maron *
+14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 8:39 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
wrote:
One of the problems with giving aid is only about a tenth of the money given
is used in the way one would hope.Probably the most pressing problem in Africa
at the moment is corruption and in many ways aid doesn't help this particular
problem.Mapping in OSM is way to assist without fear that the funds will be
diverted.Money given by government agencies stands a little more chance that
the aid will get through although there is always the temptation to say it must
be shipped on ships from the donor country or must be spent on goods from the
donor country.Given that HOT Inc exists in the US and given the USA culture,
who else could elect Donald, I think we can expect them to present themselves
in this manner.Whilst I would hope that requirements and benefits can be
presented I'm not sure that this is in the US tradition. Given the attention
span of the target audience again is it worth the effort to HOT Inc? Should
the message have been restricted to those with a US address?If I'm cynical then
the task manager has been very effective. The training group has identified
problem areas and come up with solutions. However HOT is not just HOT Inc there
are many people involved in creating maps and the tools used. Germany is home
to many of them. The OSM wiki contains much wisdom, the page I'm thinking of
was put together by a Canadian, well a Québécois which is practically the
same.I'd like to see two slots on the most urgent slots in tasks reserved for
projects that are run by OSM groups in affected areas to give some sort of
recognition to the work they are doing. If nothing else they're learning
project management skills that they can apply elsewhere.In sum HOT Inc probably
deserves some support but on transparency I think it could do better.Cheerio
John
On 1 Dec 2016 7:16 pm, "Severin Menard" <severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote:
Let usfigure out what is happening here:HOT USInc starts a micro-grant program
supposedly to support 10 local OSMcommunities worldwide by raising money. Some
of them being alreadyHOT-Sponsored through grants, others being totally
autonomous fromHOT US Inc. Looks great. Micro-grants are not HOT US Inc
specialityas it has been refusing from 2013 to deal with projects under
10,000USD grants, what may explain why it is not clear at all how the moneyfrom
these smaller grants will be used: who decides how to split, ifthe 10
communities will all receive a tenth of it or if it is relatedto their
requirements (if only HOT US Inc took the time to ask them),if the communities
will receive all the money in cash or if HOT USInc will proceed to purchases,
etc. OK, it is totallyunclear/unexplained, but damn let us donate, this a good
cause!But ifyou read the explanation text you can read this: “When donating,you
have the choice of where your funds go: to micro-grants or wherethey're needed
most to support HOT's critical work and technology”.What? The first time this 1
million dollar organization (according tohttps://hotosm.org/sites/
default/files/HOT_2015_Annual_ Report.pdf)raises money specifically for far
less funded local OSM communities,it really needs to suggest to take money from
them? I don’tknow if HOT US Inc needs fund-raising again to fix a new
unexpected,mismanaged 100,000+ USD financial hole like last year
withoutexplaining it to the donors (or even its voting members) forgettingthat
the O of HOT is for Open, but this is certainly not the rightway to do it
here.Evenbetter, all the people participating in the video have
beenautomatically called “HOT community leaders”. Ladies and gents,you belong
to the HOT US Inc brand now, just because you showed up inthe video. From my
long experience with HOT US Inc, I can tell youthat this wording will be next
used in every, every grant HOT US Incwill try to get in the future, emphasizing
this community support inits storytelling. In short, for the 1 USD you may get
from HOT US Incthrough this micro-grants program, aside from the 1 USD it
willdirectly keep, HOT US Inc will multiply this in the future for itsvery own
use. Do notbe surprised, this is not the first time HOT US Inc takes over the
workfrom others. For the last two years or so, everyone using the HOT US
IncTasking Manager instance becomes instantaneously a “HOT volunteer”,even if
she or he does not even know what HOT is, and included in HOTUS Inc statistics.
People contributing in OSM with the iD editor arenot “MapBox volunteers”, as
long as I know. Nor book authorsusing Microsoft Word to draft their new work
are “MS writers”. Abasic OpenStreetMap rule that the HOT US Inc Board should
read andthink about during one of their (non public - always) meetings:respect
attribution.OSMlocal communities, HOT US Inc needs you to get money from you.
Butyou do not need HOT US Inc to get money to grow your activities.Rather than
having ten seconds in this video, build your ownfund-raising, take time to
present your community, its history,achievements and goals and describe
precisely what you need and wantto get. You will likely get more funds and
nobody will make financialprofit from you.
Sincerely,
Severin
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Tyler Radford <tyler.radf...@hotosm.org> wrote:
Dear HOT community,
Today, on behalf of the HOT Fundraising Working Group, I'm excited to announce
our 2016 campaign #mapthedifference.
This year's campaign is about coming together to raise funds for a micro-grants
initiative. Micro-grants will support small but highly impactful projects
carried out by HOT/OSM community leaders. More details on the application and
selection process will be announced in early 2017, but until then, please check
out the video below and help us #mapthedifference!
Tyler
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