Btw, is this a problem from my host, since the emails that we receive are sent
from lists.openstreetmap.org ?
Unless the problem is with the cc. This time I have removed your email from the
cc list.
Pierre
De : john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
À : Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr>
Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org; AYTOUN RALPH <ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com>
Envoyé le : lundi 31 juillet 2017 16h57
Objet : Re: [HOT] landuse=residential and routing
My understanding is all Yahoo.fr addresses have the same problem. BT in the UK
used to use Yahoo for their email system but have switched to their own
service. Yahoo in particular is in decline which probably means the best
techies don't want to work there and traditionally the email books and
configuration details are in English with translations only arriving about
twelve months later based on my knowledge in Canada where although we use both
English and French in the technical areas everyone used English.
I once got audited on a French translation that was sent to a group of database
administrators. It didn't make sense to him. It took me two hours to explain
two sentences to the auditor. The translators have a language background not a
technical one which is unfortunate. Eventually the auditor accepted that for
technical work such as I did they'd just do a word for word translation and
accept that the database administrators would read and work from the English.
Cheerio John
On 31 Jul 2017 4:32 pm, "Pierre Béland" <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
I am using yahoo as a provider. Is the situation the same with all people using
yahoo email adresses?
Pierre
De : john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
À : AYTOUN RALPH <ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com>
Cc : "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org>
Envoyé le : lundi 31 juillet 2017 16h25
Objet : Re: [HOT] landuse=residential and routing
Both this message and the one from Pierre have been marked as spam because they
do not pass the correct authentication by gmail, I suspect their email
providers have not configured their email servers correctly.
I would suggest they both switch to a different email provider. Microsoft
offers outlook besides google if you use Thunderbird that can pick up mail from
different sources and consolidate it and send email through one particular
provider.
Google handles about thirty percent of the world's email traffic these days so
if your emails do not get through to google users then there is a problem.
The other possibility is talk to your email providers and get them to sort out
their authentication.
To read Pierre's and Ralph's comments which I think are useful, gmail users can
go to their spam folder.
Cheerio John
On 31 July 2017 at 14:45, <ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hi Marco, The correct drawing of roads should be through the village and not
stopping on the residential boundary. In fact there should not be a node
connecting road and boundary at all. In the example you showed there is a road
running to the south and east bypassing the village. As there is no indication
of any clear road through the village itself leads me to believe that those
ways leading off the bypass are more likely to be paths that will weave between
the buildings and should not be shown as possible vehicle routes. Hope this
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Topics: 1. Re: Highway Tag Africa wiki (Vao Matua) 2. landuse=residential
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07:59:53 -0700From: Vao Matua <vaoma...@gmail.com>To: "Jens Mueller (Historical
Research Services)" <h...@hist.de>Cc: HOT Openstreetmap
<hot@openstreetmap.org>Subject: Re: [HOT] Highway Tag Africa wikiMessage-ID:
<CABvwQawh64NYNdE3ZNgfPGeuB9- c==axu8co0vQBiDFCicerYQ@mail.g
mail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Ukundji Thank you for you
comments, yes Ethiopia needs to have an OSM restart.For the last 10 months I
was living in SNNPR and was not able to meet asingle OSM contributor.The
infrastructure, unfortunately, makes OSM contributions and even usevery
difficult.Ethiopians would be very interested in getting OSMAnd on their
phones,however, it appears to be a restricted app. In terms of paths to
Ethiopian villages it is indeed the case that theprimary or only transportation
route to a population may only be by foot ordonkey traffic on a path.I think
the perception that a path is not important is quite common and isnot true.
Important or significant paths need to be mapped for commerce,food safety, and
potential relief efforts, not only in Ethiopia but inother parts of Africa and
places throughout the world. The discussion about
importance<http://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Proposed_Features/ Importance>
doesn'tseem to have moved forward but could have some value. At SOTM Africa
earlier this month there was quite a bit of discussion onhighway tags,
including paths. Based on that discussion I have updatedthe AfricaHighway
Tagging guide<http://wiki.openstreetmap. org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa> to help
clarifythat a road has not only a construction class as well as an economic
orsocial function. Regards Emmor(Palolo <http://hdyc.neis-one.org/? Palolo>) On
Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jens Mueller (Historical ResearchServices)
<h...@hist.de> wrote: > Hi!> > I hope that you do not mind if I “jump into”
your interesting and very> important discussion.> > I have had problems with
the defintion of “unclassified roads” and “paths”.> Based on your defintion any
roads which are not accessable by 4x4 wheel> cars should be tagged as “path”
(or as “tracks” if they only connect to> agricultural places), even if they are
the only roads which connect> settlements. Is this correct?> > Please take a
short look (if you do not mind and have the time to do so)> at a “OSM forum”
discussion two years ago.> I mapped in Ethiopia mainly oin the municipality of
“Yemezegn”.> There are several roads of different sizes there, as decribed in
my> posting.> > A native Ethiopian did in-depth research in that area for his
master> thesis and stated:> “According to the observation data, two Kebeles
namely Yemezegn and> Gibtsawit are inaccessable by vehicles and hence, do not
have easy access> to public transport.”> And it seems as if he meant
inaccesable by all (normal, including 4x4)> vehicles.> If this is indeed true,
should all roads be tagged as paths?> https://forum.openstreetmap.
org/viewtopic.php?id=54917> > Any help and ideas would be greatly appreciated
after this would help me a> lot for other mapping projects in Ethiopia and DR
Congo (near the Lake> Tanganyika, where a lot of settlements only have access
by vehicles via the> Lake).> > Thank you.> > Kind Regards,> > Ukundji> > >
*From:* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017
1:38 AM> *To:* hot@openstreetmap.org> *Subject:* [HOT] Highway Tag Africa wiki>
> I seem to recall some one posting recently that following discussion at> the
SOTM Africa in Uganda 2017 some changes had been made to the wiki.> > Could
some one highlight these.> > Thanks John> > ------------------------------>
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<mbran...@gmail.com>To: hot@openstreetmap.orgSubject: [HOT] landuse=residential
and routing problemsMessage-ID: <1501496436359-5900081.post@n8
.nabble.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Doing remote mapping in
Nigeria (project #2768), I've a very basic question(sorry, but I searched a lot
in wiki pages and mailing lists, I didn't findanything about) : all highways
(usually 'unclassified') connecting a village need to beconnected between them,
for routing alghoritms?If so, and the village has no residential highways, have
we to draw"virtual" roads (with highway=residential) inside the village to get
theconnection? Please look at this picture [1] to have an example. Cheers,Marco
[1] https://drive.google.com/open? id=
0B65acVCG5NRQZ3VHTkFlaXR0RHM<https://drive.google.com/ open?id=
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