Thanks Mikel, agreed. We had a HOT management meeting in DC last week and this was a topic of conversation. We discussed the steps we can take to help support a vibrant developer community. We started outlining some of this a few weeks ago: https://www.hotosm.org/updates/2017-11-22_hot_tech_in_2018.
To share with everyone more about what this is starting to look like — we will be looking to add to that with better defined roadmaps of the tools or updates that are needed; better use of the tech working group to participate in those roadmap discussions; and create more clear ways to not just to say something could be better but help participate in a software development process - which isn’t just about writing code. This will be for both HOT-lead tools like the Tasking Manager but also for other tools that HOT uses within the OSM ecosystem. We’ve started this with adjusting how we’re running our Tech Working Group meetings. We’ve added an Asia working group meeting to meet earlier in the day. We’re planning to outline what will be discussed ahead of time so you can know when and how you can participate. This takes a lot of work and is a community effort; come be a part of this process! Join the Tech Working Group, https://groups.google.com/a/hotosm.org/forum/#!forum/techwg, or just contact me directly. Nate Nate Smith @nas_smith <https://twitter.com/nas_smith> On December 13, 2017 at 1:20:25 PM, Mikel Maron ([email protected]) wrote: Let's stop apologizing to Bryan and figure out how HOT can practically do better to support a vibrant developer community. It's not about more mailing list discussion, but clarity and leadership and how to be productive. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, 2:06:23 PM EST, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM < [email protected]> wrote: Hi Bryan, I just want to echo what Russ said, and let you know how much I and everyone at HOT appreciates how much you have done for the OpenStreetMap community. The iD editor and your work specifically, has made the OpenStreetMap project and open geospatial data creation accessible to 10's of thousands of people around the world. It is a tool that people can use to improve their lives and their communities and it helped OSM become the critically important project that it is today. I also know how much you have personally done for HOT above and beyond your regular iD editor wizardry. I sincerely apologize we as an organization did not do a better job make sure you knew how much we appreciated you and your contribution to OSM. Respectfully, blake On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 7:11 PM, Russell Deffner <[email protected]> wrote: > Bryan, > > > > I hope you know that HOT appreciates all you do; personally I don’t disagree > with leaving communication channels that are more frustration than anything > else. My point being, that message was against the Code of Conduct for all > community members participating in HOT related tools and platforms, > including this public list. However, retaliating against HOT the > organization because of one ‘random’ person’s email, I don’t agree with. > Everyone should consider that they are communicating with other human beings > and when IRL does that kind of communication work to get the results you’re > after? > > > > If there is anything I can do to moderate and send people to the correct > means to ‘air their grievance’ you are welcome to contact me directly, > > =Russ > > > > Russell Deffner > > Voting Member+ > > Email: [email protected] > > OSM/Skype: russdeffner > > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) > > Web | Wiki | Blog | Contact | Donate – Please Help Us #MapTheDifference > > > > > > From: Bryan Housel [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 10:57 AM > To: Russell Deffner > Cc: Ralf Stephan; osm-hot > Subject: Re: [HOT] sporadic validation report > > > > Russ I *am* on this mailing list. But good news for all of you - I’m > unsubscribing. > > I don’t prioritize features for people or organizations who hate me. > > > > Thanks though, > > Bryan > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Russell Deffner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi Ralf, > > > > I hope it doesn’t need much explaining, but that message doesn’t belong on > the HOT mailing list for 2 reasons. 1) The iD developers are not > necessarily on the HOT mailing list (this list is for discussing things > related to the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) https://hotosm.org). > 2) The message is in conflict with our Code of Conduct > https://www.hotosm.org/hot_code_of_conduct#fullversion > > > > It would be unfortunate if we need to so quickly put the new community CoC > into practice, but this message would be a good example for when to put our > foot down. > > > > Please take a break and think before corresponding with us, > > =Russ > > > > Russell Deffner > > Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) > > Web | Wiki | Blog | Contact | Donate – Please help us #mapthedifference! > > > > > > From: Ralf Stephan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [HOT] sporadic validation report > > > > Hello, > > just now 5 out of 5 people that registered within the last 24 hours and > worked on task #3939 did not square their buildings. I hate you, iD devs. > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > -- ---------------------------------------------------- Blake Girardot Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
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