Dear Friends, Respectfully, what Dale's opinion on the state of the wider OSM community is off topic for the HOT email list which is as follows:
"During crisis, the HOT list supports coordination among the OSM community (along side appropriate local country lists, and the talk/dev lists when needed). It is the point where disaster responders and affected people can connect directly to members of the OSM community ready to help. In quieter times, the list helps HOT to prepare resources and improve its response." The hot@openstreetmap.org email list follows the OSM guidelines for email list etiquette ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Etiquette) and demanding that an individual justify and discuss their feelings about the wider OSM community as it relates to diversity issues across 3 large OSM community email lists really seems to be outside of those guidelines in respect assuming good faith, staying on list topic and not calling people out directly. There are good, constructive, ways to discuss the important issues Dale raises but demanding Dale justify his feelings publicly on this email lists is just not one of them. Let us stay on the HOT mapping and response topic here please. Regards, blake On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:52 AM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Could it be a different Dale Kunce? > > Could the president of HOT confirm that this twitter account isn't his? > > Many Thanks > > Cheerio John > > On 18 December 2017 at 17:18, nicolas chavent <nicolas.chav...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Dear HOT US Inc, OSMF members and HOT mailing list subscribers, >> >> I randomly ran into this tweet of Dale Kunce [1], >> > "Community. The absolute best and worst things of OSM. Current mailing >> > list is a viper pit of racism and misogyny. I don’t know it if will ever be >> > a safe place. Even I’m thinking of unsubscribing." >> >> As both an OSM, OSMF, HOT US Inc member (and the president of the HOT US >> Inc NGO), Dale shall find appropriate to develop his thoughts and provide >> facts to explain how the November [2] and December [3] discussions on the >> OpenStreetMap Foundation (OSMF) mailing-list (osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org) >> translate into "racism and misogyny". >> This would constitute a form of bare minimal respect ought to the members >> of those communities. >> >> Thanks, >> Best, >> Nicolas >> >> >> [1]: https://twitter.com/calimapnerd/status/942596633283448832 >> [2]: >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2017-November/thread.html >> [3]: >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2017-December/subject.html >> >> -- >> Nicolas Chavent >> Les Libres Géographes >> Projet OpenStreetMap (OSM) >> Projet Espace OSM Francophone (EOF) >> Projet GeOrchestra >> Mobile (FR): +33 (0)6 52 40 78 20 >> Email: nicolas.chav...@gmail.com >> Skype: c_nicolas >> Twitter: nicolas_chavent >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > -- ---------------------------------------------------- Blake Girardot Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
