Thanks Philippe for the thoughts! Can you make sure that you also share with [email protected] or post to the OSMF talk list [1] <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk>. Conversation ongoing in both places :)
Pete [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:10 AM Philippe Verdy <[email protected]> wrote: > For those that are unemployed, paying 15 pounds once is much money, > including in "rich" countries because of higher general prices for > life with the low incomes (ven with social benefits). Also lot of > people can't pay online with their debit card (and they have > difficulties to spare that money without having it seized for some > reasons, or because they would have their benefits reduced if they > keep that money unused in their bank account). Those people have only > cash (bills/coins or electronic cash) for very short periods and can > only pay small amounts (the rest of the time they have no money at > all, everything is taken for essential life support). > > One solution would be to pay in fractioned way, by micropayments, e.g. > by SMS fees (one or two SMS every month at ~0.75€ each, and once you > reach 20 SMS, you've paid the yearly bill; and each SMS before that > will count for a ratio of period, so if you can pay only 10 SMS since > the first one in the 1-year period, you get rights for 6 months since > that first paid SMS). They would be able to choose when to pay these > micropayments > > Micropayments would satisfy those that have the most time to > contribute and work the most (they give in fact what is most > precious), but can't decide because they have no right and can't pay > the membership right. > > However micropayments may cause significant admin costs for OSM or > HOT; I wonder if there are ways to manage micropayment via efficient > online services (that would manage the transactions and identity of > payers), something that would be also useful for general life in > developing countries (may be some microbank organisation?), with also > a strict respect of privacy. > > Le ven. 3 avr. 2020 à 23:05, Pete Masters via HOT > <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > Hi all, don't know if you have seen but the OpenStreetMap Foundation > have been discussing membership fees. Some interesting new proposals have > been voted on recently... > > > > > https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes/MWG_2020-01-19#implementation_of_new_Fee_waiver_for_mappers.2Fcontributors > > > > This is important because the OSMF members vote for the board and the > board are influential in defining / guiding the future of OpenStreetMap, > which we all know and love. > > > > This is different to HOT membership as to be a member for OSMF you had > to pay £15 (sterling) or apply for an exemption on an individual basis > (whereas for HOT, you need to be nominated). This fee was regardless of > whether £15 was a lot of money or not much money wherever you were from. > The new rules look to reward contribution to the OSM project, not just > whether you can spare the cash. > > > > The OSMF membership working group are looking for feedback on the > proposals. You can either email them directly at [email protected] or > post to the OSMF talk list [1]. > > > > I think the proposals are good and worth engaging with... > > > > Hope you are all safe and well in these crazy times! > > > > Pete > > > > [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osmf-talk > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HOT mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >
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