Re: [HOT] New tag - Mapping Refugee Sites

Thu, 16 Apr 2020 13:00:24 -0700

Hello Michael, 
thank you for your comment, 
about your first point, we have already done a large review of UNHCR refugee sites on OSM, and that's precisely why decided to propose a new tag for large refugee site. 
If the tag is validated, we will suggest to have a global manual review of the refugee sites already mapped on OSM to adapt the tagging accordingly. 
For your second point, I invite you to read the discussion page of the propose tag ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Refugee_Site_Location_2), this has been widely discussed. but if I just take one argument, I will say that this alternative proposition is based on what has been proposed and validated for mapping university campuses, which, although their functions are not at all the same, can be similar in size, the diversity of the facilities that these places accommodate etc. 
Regards, 
Manon
Le 16 avril 2020 à 10:48, Michael Montani <michael.mont...@un.org> a écrit :

Dear Manon and HOT community,

I have mainly 2 points about this new tagging proposal:

  • It seems resonable to me to use the 'old' tag ( amenity=social_facility + social_facility=shelter + social_facility:for=* ) for small refugee sites or even single facilities. But, according to my experience mapping in Africa, up to now this tag schema had been used also for big refugee sites, which is actually the new tag you are proposing. Many of those refugee sites (already on OSM) are coming from UN-related activities as well (and not only), conducted in the past. Maybe it can be interesting to explore the situation on the map further by checking those sites first.
    (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:social_facility%3Dshelter)
    Nodes 1 420 3.37 %
    Ways 2 219 6.51 %
    Relations 44 2.17 %

  • Motivated also from the first point, could you elaborate why are you proposing an amenity=refugee_site and not a social_facility=refugee_site? This could help not to have a totally different situation wrt the previous tagging schema. I don't know if this option had already been discussed. In (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dsocial_facility) also outdoor area is considered part of the facility.

Thanks,
Michael





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Da: Manon Viou <m_v...@cartong.org>
Inviato: martedì 14 aprile 2020 18:57
A: hot@openstreetmap.org <hot@openstreetmap.org>
Oggetto: Re: [HOT] New tag - Mapping Refugee Sites

Hello,
Actually RFC for refugee site location mapping started March 25,
Since this day, we received and exchanges on the proposal and made changes to the former proposal, that’s what RFC is all about no?  ,
I do not know if according to this changes, we have to restart the RFC period?
We will restart RFC period if needed, let me know !
We haven’t received much comments on the latest proposal modifications, please let us know if this works for you or if amendments have to be done. Comments from HOT contributors, with experience mapping refugee sites are very appreciated! 
Have a great day,
Manon 
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