Thanks Charlie, I will further work on paging/swapping issue and will re-run G1 
GC once that is fixed.

Regards,
Amit Mishra

From: charlie hunt [mailto:charlie.h...@oracle.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 01:30
To: Amit Mishra <amit.mis...@redknee.com>
Cc: hotspot-gc-use@openjdk.java.net
Subject: Re: regarding long young generation pause when using G1 GC

Being you are on Solaris, the transparent huge pages is not an issue. Solaris 
is smart enough automatically figure out how to make large pages work, 
transparently. You do not need to remove -XX:+UseLargePages.

Also since you are using Solaris, use vmstat to monitor the application and 
watch the ‘free’ and ’sr’ columns. You should see ‘0’ in the ’sr’ column most 
of the time while the app is running. In short, the ’sr’ column is the page 
scan rate. Hence, as memory gets low, (as indicated in the ‘free’ column), the 
page scanner will start looking for available pages it can reclaim. So, if you 
are starting to see non-zero entries in the ’sr’ column that tend to be 
increasing, and the values in the ‘free’ column getting smaller and smaller, 
that is a pretty good sign that the system is paging to virtual memory, or 
approaching that state.  And, obviously once that paging starts to happen you 
will see the ‘pi’ and ‘po’ columns will show activity as well (they are the 
page in and page out columns).

On setting an eden size … while you can set an eden size, doing so will disable 
the adaptive sizing G1 will do in an effort to meet the pause time goal. IMO, I 
don’t think the 13 GB young gen is the root of the long pause. Need to find the 
reason / cause for the high sys time and low parallelism.

hths,

charlie

PS: It would likely help to move to a JDK 8 JVM since there were many 
improvements made in G1 between JDK 7 and JDK 8.

On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Amit Mishra 
<amit.mis...@redknee.com<mailto:amit.mis...@redknee.com>> wrote:

Thanks Charlie & Jenny’s for your expert comments.

We are using jdk : jdk1.7.0_45 as our applications have never been tested on 
Java 1.8

Yes I dig further and found system is running low on memory so might be OS 
occasionally resort to swapping, I will further ask Customer to increase 
physical memory on node to ensure swap is not getting used at any point of time.

I am not sure about Eden size as a best practice we haven’t set any explicit 
value for new size or Eden, is it fine to set explicit eden size ?

I will ask team to run next test with MaxGCPauseMillis=200 .

We are on solaris 5.10 platform and you can see that large pages parameter is 
enabled, shall we need to disable it for better performance.

JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:+UseLargePages"


You can also refer to rest of JVM parameters application is using to confirm 
whether we need to disable any of them or need to enable few more for better G1 
GC performance.

argv[11]: -Xms28672m
argv[12]: -Xmx28672m
argv[13]: -Xss1m
argv[14]: -Xoss1m
argv[15]: -XX:PermSize=256m
argv[16]: -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
argv[17]: -XX:ReservedCodeCacheSize=128m
argv[18]: -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError
argv[19]: -XX:+AggressiveOpts
argv[20]: -XX:+DisableExplicitGC
argv[22]: -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.ssl=false
argv[23]: -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote.authenticate=false
argv[25]: -XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps
argv[26]: -XX:+PrintGCDetails
argv[28]: -verbose:gc
argv[29]: -Dsun.rmi.dgc.server.gcInterval=86400000
argv[30]: -Dsun.rmi.dgc.client.gcInterval=86400000
argv[31]: -XX:+UseLargePages
argv[32]: -XX:+MaxFDLimit
argv[37]: -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBClass=org.jacorb.orb.ORB
argv[38]: -Dorg.omg.CORBA.ORBSingletonClass=org.jacorb.orb.ORBSingleton
argv[39]: -XX:-EliminateLocks
argv[40]: -XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow
argv[41]: -XX:-UseSSE42Intrinsics
argv[42]: -XX:-ReduceInitialCardMarks
argv[43]: -XX:+UseG1GC
argv[44]: -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=500
argv[45]: -XX:+UseCompressedOops
argv[46]: -XX:+PrintFlagsFinal
argv[47]: com.redknee.framework.core.platform.Core


Thanks,
Amit

From: charlie hunt [mailto:charlie.h...@oracle.com]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 01:06
To: Amit Mishra <amit.mis...@redknee.com<mailto:amit.mis...@redknee.com>>
Cc: hotspot-gc-use@openjdk.java.net<mailto:hotspot-gc-use@openjdk.java.net>
Subject: Re: regarding long young generation pause when using G1 GC

Hi Amit,

To add to Jenny’s comments …

In the absence of looking at the entire GC log and looking only at the entry 
included in email, this line really catches my eye:
[Times: user=184.95 sys=34.49, real=148.07 secs]

- This is pretty high sys time. If this is Linux, check that transparent huge 
pages are disabled. If that’s disabled, then you may be paging to virtual 
memory. In short, need to chase down the root of that high sys time.
- Comparing user=184.95 to real=148.07 you do not much parallelism, ~ 1.24x. 
That is not much parallelism for a multi-threaded young GC.

hths,

charlie

On Jan 21, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Yu Zhang 
<yu.zh...@oracle.com<mailto:yu.zh...@oracle.com>> wrote:

Amit,

Which jdk version are you using?

You give MaxGCPauseMillis=500, but it seems g1 is adjusting eden size too big, 
up to 13g. I am curious why. Can you add a flag -XX:+PrintAdaptiveSizePolicy? 
Meanwhile, to reduce young gc pause, can you try to a smaller number for 
MaxGCPauseMillis, or give a smaller eden size?

Another thing I noticed, whenever you have long gc pause, the system cpu is 
high. Maybe the system is busy doing something else?



Thanks,

Jenny
On 1/21/2016 4:30 AM, Amit Mishra wrote:
Hello team,

Please help me with G1 GC long young generation pause..

At one of our Customer deployment we were using CMS with 48G heap size and 
facing Concurrent mode failure every month.

To solve this we started load test using G1 GC on lab but we are seeing 
intermittent long GC pause as long as 148 seconds,

Could you please look into logs and confirm what best we can do to ascertain 
root cause and possible tuning to fix this.

Thanks for help in advance.
We are using default GC parameters:(Attaching full GC file as well)

JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:-UseSSE42Intrinsics"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:-ReduceInitialCardMarks"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:+UseG1GC"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=500"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:+UseCompressedOops"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:+PrintFlagsFinal"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:-EliminateLocks"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:+UseLargePages"
export GC_LOG="${PROJECT_HOME}/log/gcstats.log.$$"
JVM_ARGS=$JVM_ARGS" -Xloggc:${GC_LOG}"
JVM_ARGS=$JVM_ARGS" -verbose:gc"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:+DisableExplicitGC"
JVM_ARGS=$JVM_ARGS" -XX:+AggressiveOpts"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:ReservedCodeCacheSize=128m"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:PermSize=256m"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -XX:MaxPermSize=256m"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -Xmx28672m"
JVM_ARGS="${JVM_ARGS} -Xms28672m

Long GC pause.

5020.853: [GC pause (young), 148.0343389 secs]
   [Parallel Time: 142474.3 ms, GC Workers: 13]
      [GC Worker Start (ms): Min: 5022695.7, Avg: 5022705.6, Max: 5022714.4, 
Diff: 18.7]
      [Ext Root Scanning (ms): Min: 143.0, Avg: 2550.5, Max: 6442.5, Diff: 
6299.4, Sum: 33157.1]
      [Update RS (ms): Min: 5704.6, Avg: 19017.1, Max: 45977.9, Diff: 40273.3, 
Sum: 247222.7]
         [Processed Buffers: Min: 0, Avg: 26.9, Max: 291, Diff: 291, Sum: 350]
      [Scan RS (ms): Min: 70538.2, Avg: 92539.7, Max: 114688.0, Diff: 44149.8, 
Sum: 1203016.2]
      [Object Copy (ms): Min: 894.7, Avg: 9265.9, Max: 20674.1, Diff: 19779.4, 
Sum: 120456.9]
      [Termination (ms): Min: 10169.3, Avg: 19073.0, Max: 26684.1, Diff: 
16514.7, Sum: 247949.3]
      [GC Worker Other (ms): Min: 0.1, Avg: 4.5, Max: 18.2, Diff: 18.0, Sum: 
58.4]
      [GC Worker Total (ms): Min: 142441.2, Avg: 142450.8, Max: 142461.1, Diff: 
19.8, Sum: 1851860.7]
      [GC Worker End (ms): Min: 5165155.6, Avg: 5165156.4, Max: 5165162.0, 
Diff: 6.4]
   [Code Root Fixup: 2.2 ms]
   [Clear CT: 11.2 ms]
   [Other: 5546.7 ms]
      [Choose CSet: 0.0 ms]
      [Ref Proc: 47.4 ms]
      [Ref Enq: 0.9 ms]
      [Free CSet: 3642.1 ms]
   [Eden: 13.2G(13.2G)->0.0B(1416.0M) Survivors: 16.0M->16.0M Heap: 
24.7G(28.0G)->11.5G(28.0G)]
 [Times: user=184.95 sys=34.49, real=148.07 secs]


Thanks,
Amit





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