Hey Mark, any thoughts on what I’d offered, in reply to your specific request 
to run things in the same environment? 

It’s certainly true that any VM setup could give you the opportunity to run 
multiple CF deployments within distinct OS environments.

I presumed you had a specific reason/intent to try to get this working on a 
single box/OS, so didn’t think to mention VMs. And what I offered could enable 
you to do what you want, with the caveats. (Even if you may not go that route, 
I hope the info may have helped someone else reading along.)

Sure, if you want to go the VM route, then vagrant (and other solutions like 
it) build upon VMs and add valuable functionality, especially if you need to 
create lots of packaged virtualized deployments repeatedly and consistently. 
You could just get virtualization software (like virtualbox), free, and then 
install your OS (not free for Windows, sadly), then finally install IIS and CF. 
You could then flip among the VMs to do your work for each client.

BTW, before anyone may think to point out that “Windows 10 is now free”, the 
problem with that is that no version of CF currently supports Windows 10. And 
it’s not just about “not supporting it”: the install just won’t work (out of 
the box), for various reasons. Many are hoping Adobe will be coming out with an 
update very soon to support it. (They did not include it in their most recent 
updates to 10 and 11, simply because that was pushed out as an emergency update 
for a specific new security vulnerability. They have lots of other bug fixes 
hotly anticipated by many, which will likely be bundled with Windows 10 support 
in a next update. I don’t know. It’s just my expectation.)

Finally, on the notion of CF on Windows 10, someone may want to point out (or 
may appreciate knowing) that you can take a Windows 7 or 8 deployment, that 
already has CF on it, and upgrade it to Windows 10, and it will continue to 
work. I’ve done that myself. But given Mark’s need to install CF, I’m just 
saying if he wants to go the VM route, he couldn’t just install free Windows 10 
then CF. He could install Windows 7 or 8 (if he had a license), and could even 
update it to Windows 10 if he wanted. But now we’re getting pretty far beyond 
his original request. :-)

Hope that’s helpful.

 

/charlie

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Mark Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [houcfug] Multiple versions of CF on same machine

 

hey Jermaine,  Thanks for the link to VagrantUp.  Can you explain a little bit 
about how that works and how you use it to create different environments on the 
same machine?  Appreciate the help.  

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Jermaine Gonzales <[email protected]> wrote:

Have you looked into vagrant https://www.vagrantup.com/ ? I am currently using 
this at current job, I am able to run different setups for the different 
environments we are using.
 

 

-Jermaine

 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Charlie Arehart <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Mark, while on the surface you have always been able to run more than one 
version of CF on a single machine, there is a problem with putting both CF9 or 
earlier and CF10 or later on one machine, if you are going to use IIS.

The problem is that the connectors are so very different (JRun for CF9 and 
earlier, Tomcat for CF10 and later). Now, it could work, and especially (as 
someone may point out) you could and would have a separate “web server 
connector” created for site a talking to CF10 and site b talking to CF9.

The problem is if you have setup CF10 so that it’s configured to handle “all 
sites” in IIS.  In that case, the “isapi filter” for CF10 (that will be 
configured and implemented in your “new site”) may conflict with the “wildcard 
handler” that CF9’s connector sets up. If instead you have CF10 setup for now 
so that a connector exists for only one specific named site, it could work if 
you create a connector with CF9’s tool to another site.

If this is a VM, take a snapshot before you try so you can recover if things 
get botched. If it’s not a VM, sadly the files you need to “backup” are both 
the applicationhost.config (buried deep in windows system 32 folder) and the 
web.config (if any) of your web sites, as well as perhaps the connector folders 
under wsconfig in CF 10. 

I’ll add this: if you want to have it done and be sure to recover if something 
goes amiss, I could certainly help with this, remotely (without need for you to 
give me RDP access to the machine. I’d “watch over your shoulder” via join.me 
and guide you in the process. It may take no more than 15-30 minutes if all 
goes well, and perhaps no more than an hour if things go amiss. This would 
include explaining what we’re seeing and doing as we go. (If you wanted me to 
“just do it”, it might shave 25% of the time off, but then you’d need to give 
me remote access, and setting that up could take time.)  You can learn more 
about my consulting services (rates, approach, satisfaction guarantee, and 
more) at the consulting page of carehart.org.

But if you’re wanting to go it alone, I hope the info above may help. It’s 
potentially a delicate operation. Hope it goes well for you.

/charlie

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Mark Davis
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [houcfug] Multiple versions of CF on same machine

hey gang,

Not sure if anyone is even still on here, but thought I'd try.  Here's the deal.

I have a local dev environment setup on my Windows 7 laptop for Company A that 
I work for.  

That setup is:   CF 10, Java 1.7, IIS, Single instance

I now need to setup a second CF install to do some work for Company B.  That 
setup needs to be

CF 9, Java 1.6, IIS, Multiple instances

Completely different code bases and settings.

Has anyone done something similar and care to share any gotchas?

Thanks

Mark

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