1. emacs: and not because it's *better* than vi, I gave each about a day and emacs made more sense. Like Todd, I've kinda refused to retrain my brain to vi, but I know enough to get around as it's EVERYWHERE. Now I have to say that I have not tried an emacs I've liked in the windows world, perhaps I didn't invest the time to learn the differences. 2. TextMate: at home I use mac. I use emacs most of the time, but when working on a project involving lots of files, where seeing the directory structure helps, I will lazily drag the root folder into textmate. I've been tinkering with Mojo lately, http://mojolicious.org/, being able to see my templates folder, public folder, etc, etc makes for quick switching between files. Anybody else playing with Mojo?
3. on windows: notepad++ / crimson editor. Like I mentioned in #1, I haven't found an emacs I like on windows or I'd use that. I basically like the fact that both of these editors have tabs and syntax hi-lighting. I don't utilize many other features than that. 4. I recently installed Eclipse (again) but only to do some android development. Sadly, I've only had the time to finish the "Hello World" app :) Anyone else have an android phone out there? Anybody developing for it? Overall, I'm not a fan of IDEs, like Wade, I don't feel like they help me develop any better or faster, a properly tweaked emacs will do that for me, but the longer I use emacs, the more I tend to stick with the vanilla install and get more and more away from all the cool minor-modes that auto perltidy, syntax check, etc, etc... -Will On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 9:02 PM, G. Wade Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:26:56 -0600 > "Todd Rinaldo" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Robert Boone <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > As you can tell I don't really care for IDE's, for me they mostly > > > get in the way. I would rather build a working environment in an > > > editor that let me do that in the way I think is best for me. > > > > I've gotta admit I'm surprised how many people feel a lack of interest > > in access to IDEs. I find IDEs help me program/debug faster, as they > > point out errors to me as I commit them, rather than 10+ minutes later > > when I go to run the code. Usually there's little difference between > > fixing the error before or after, but every once in a while, the > > mistake is subtle enough that you end up spending much more time down > > the road trying to figure out what tidbit of the code went wrong. > > I've used IDEs, including the Borland environments, Programmer's > WorkBench (the IDE before Visual Studio), Forte, Visual Studio, > NetBeans, and Eclipse. > > For editors, I've used M, ted, vim, TextMate, and edit. M and vim are > the only two that had good enough macro and/or scripting capabilities > to suit me. > > Honestly, I've never found that the IDE helps me program or debug > faster. I suspect that it has more to do with a programmer's approach to > code and way of thinking. Most IDEs seem too heavyweight to me. Most > IDEs also don't support the programability that I find comfortable in a > programmer editor. > > But I know people that really do very well with an IDE. > > One of the reasons I asked this question is to get us to talk about > what makes this tool most useful to us. For instance, why does Todd > feel that an IDE helps him program better and I don't. I would be that > neither of us is wrong. Understanding different tools and how others > work should make us better programmers. > > G. Wade > -- > Virtual is when it's not but it looks like it is and transparent is > when it is but it looks like it isn't. -- Rick Hoselton > _______________________________________________ > Houston mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/houston > Website: http://houston.pm.org/ >
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