> rkg: <I actually sign the mat with pencil in additon to signing the print 
> itself - thank you for pointing this out - I had started using sharpies 
> because I came across something claiming that they were archival - digging 
> again, I 
> see that while they have changed their formula in the not too distant past, 
> they still don't advertise them as archival themselves. I guess its back to 
> the pigma micron pens for the print margin...>
> 
Permanent Sharpie is definitly an oxymoron. Sharpies are among the least 
permanent print-signing implements I've run across. (A fluorescent highlighter 
would probably take the cake for the most rapid fading.) I've seen Sharpie 
signatures fade within months of daylight exposure (see my first Window Test 
here: 
http://www.dpandi.com/resources/permanence/hjwindowtest
I'd never use a Sharpie if I were worried about signature permanence. FYI: 
here's the actual text from a recent package of black Ultra-Fine Point Sanford 
Sharpie Permanent Marker: "Sanford quality provides long-lasting durability". 
Is that ambiguous enough for you? ;-)

Personally, I've switched to matte fine art papers, so signing with graphite 
(pencil) in the margins works for me.

P.S. I'm in the middle of my new pigment-print permance Window Test, and I've 
got marking samples noted along with the sample prints themselves. I've got 
months to go, but it should be interesting. I'm using the new Mark 
McCormick-Goodhart I* ("eye star") metric, which is bound to seriously change 
the way 
accelerated print permancence tests are done. Check my website for updates. And 
go 
to Mark's website to learn more about I*: 
http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com
Mark also has an I* print research project started, complete with datalogger 
sensors, that people can be a part of. Check it out.

Harald Johnson
author, "Mastering Digital Printing, Second Edition"
DP&I.com (http://www.dpandi.com)
digital printing and imaging consultant

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