Ivan, I am sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you.
I understand that you were not attempting to do that and that you were merely wondering whether anyone had experienced any issues. My point was only to fork your question into a proposal. I didn't mean to imply anything about you or your episode. Mea culpa. - klaatu On 02/10/2015 09:34 PM, Ivan Privaci wrote: > On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 07:37:41 AM Ken Fallon wrote: >> On 2015-02-10 07:21, Klaatu wrote: >>> [...]some of >>> us (I'm counting myself in) are interested, on some level, to learn what >>> will break mp3 players with regards to meta data. >>> >>> While I don't think it's the right place to do experiments in the main >>> feed[...] >>> - klaatu >> >> You nailed it on the head as far as I'm concerned. > > This is why I don't think I should ever touch this topic again around here: > there are now TWO people who appear to think my point was to break people's > players, and one who believed that the point was to find ways to make things > hard for future contributors. > > hpr1393 was a demonstration of valid metadata, not a carelessly released > destructive test. If I had believed there was substantial risk of breaking a > listener's player I wouldn't have even made the episode. I DID kind of hope > somebody WOULD come forward to say they'd had a problem for much the same > reason a biologist would like to meet bigfoot: the unlikeliness of the event > would be interesting and educational (not to mention, I was assuming, "of > interest to hackers"). Even then, any such unlikely problem would take the > form of "the player's display was messed up while this episode was playing" > or > at worst "this file wouldn't play at all, though all the other HPR episodes > do", or in the EXTREME case "my player locked up and I had to wait for the > battery to run down so it would turn off", not "my mp3 player has been > damaged > by this data.". > > I had actually thought that having the episode on audio metadata actually > being properly tagged with examples of the metadata being discussed would be > interesting and useful for someone who might have a real interest in the > subject - I know I would have if someone else had made the episode. > Unfortunately instead of "Wow, you can do that and still be standards- > compliant?/That's an interesting use-case I wouldn't have thought of/Hey, > that > functionality could be handy for this other audio project I'm involved with" > followed by "I'll have to look at this file once I get to the end and see > what > it looks like, I conveniently already have it right here because I'm > listening > to it right now!" I'm getting "you probably broke a bunch of people's stuff > and made HPR look bad and they're just not saying so" and "I'd stop > participating because of this" and "yeah, breaking people's mp3 players IS > relevant and interesting but you shouldn't have done it here". > > I'm regretting even submitting this episode at all, let alone bothering with > the demonstration metadata labors. > > I think I should just recuse myself from this topic entirely around here. > The way today is going just this last reply probably means there are now 5 or > 6 people who think I'm trying to break things, 2 or 3 more who think I'm > trying to weed out contributors by demanding complications, and one who found > the steganographic message mentioned in the episode and now thinks I'm > sending > maliciously-crafted coded messages to try to make bigfoot's ipod explode. > > The only reason I'm even posting THIS reply is that the assumption of malice > or callous destructiveness on my part is really bugging me, ESPECIALLY after > I > explicitly discussed what I wanted to do and why openly on this list before I > did it, two or three weeks before it hit the feed, and made sure there were > no > objections before I did the work on it. > > I've scrapped my plans for a followup episode on the topic. It's not worth > the > shocking level of fuss it's causing. I've got plenty of other topics in my > backlog to take its place. > > Speaking of which: the real kicker is that the question about problems with > metadata was casually included just because I was thinking of doing a > followup > at the time and figured I'd check just in case there'd be something to report > as part of it. I was actually much more urgently hoping I might luck out and > someone would be able to help with the OTHER now-forgotten question. > It's probably not likely, but if someone out there DOES have both a condenser > microphone AND an XLR-1/8" adapter that they could do a quick experiment > with, > it'd help. > > _______________________________________________ > Hpr mailing list > [email protected] > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org > > _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list [email protected] http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
