On 09/09/2015 12:34, Ken Fallon wrote: > On 2015-09-09 11:29, Klaatu wrote: >> What about an HTML side bar on the left of the site, listing links in > an >> unordered list? > > We had a side bar on the original site layout, and this caused long > pages looking off centre as you scrolled down past the menu. > > The current system is using unordered lists, and it is the application > of css that is causing the problem. The exact same html without the css > added is what is been served from: > http://hackerpublicradio.org/accessibility.php > > If you use a screen reader on the current menu without css, then you > need to use "skip to main content" or it reads each and every sub menu i > tem. > > Splitting it up so there is a old fashioned site map page > (http://hackerpublicradio.org/accessibility.php) and then putting only > the menu items that are needed on each page will reduce the amount of > babble that the screen reader needs to go through. >
Ken, Obviously I can only comment from the point of view of someone who can see nothing at all, not even the Sun. Screen-reader users read everything serially, top to bottom, with some navigation keys to help. But one thing to remember is that sometimes, if the site is put together in a certain way, we will hear things that are not visible on the site. So for example if there are drop-down menus which appear either with a mouse-click or hover, we might hear them anyway even when they are not on screen. I admit I'm not as familiar with HTML accessibility techniques as I should be, the world of the web having moved on quite a lot since I was sighted and doing web developement. But if it would help I can probably find other sites that do similar things and point you at them. A note about verbosity...all the screen-readers I have used have various adjustments that can be made to what is spoken. If you haven't found the Orca preferences on Trisquel then I think pressing either "INSERT+SPACEBAR" or possibly "CAPS-LOCK+SPACEBAR" will bring up the preferences dialog and you can make verbosity changes. Mike -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK Eyes-free Linux: http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/ Raspberry VI: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list [email protected] http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org
