-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Defaults... Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2016 09:04:33 +0200 From: Ken Fallon <[email protected]> To: Ken Fallon <[email protected]>, NYbill <[email protected]>, HPR admin <[email protected]> On 2016-03-19 13:11, Ken Fallon wrote: > On 2016-03-18 23:59, NYbill wrote: >> Hey everyone, I recently uploaded two episodes. A part 1 and 2. During >> the first upload via the web form everything went smooth. (now I realise >> it might not have.) >> >> Everything went smooth on the second upload as well, until I hit submit. >> >> The upload script informed me that I did not choose "Is the synopses >> included"... The tick box right above the intro/outro included >> question. I think it has to do with the text-to-speech part. On the >> first upload, I must have checked that it wasn't included. But, during >> the second upload, I must have missed that tick box. >> >> I was unable to submit part 2 due to my oversight. A nice red >> highlighted area brought me right to the part of the page where I should >> make a correction/choice. >> >> Anyway, that got me looking around the web form in general. I then >> realized that, "Is this show explicit" is auto checked to "yes". >> >> Part 1 of my recent upload is not explicit. I doubt any of my solo >> episodes ever will be. But now, due to an oversight, I bet part 1 is >> "auto flagged" as explicit. I think it would be better to treat the >> 'explicit: yes/no' field like the other field was. To bring attention to >> the fact that the up-loader hasn't made a choice. A chance to inform >> them (me) what the choice means and that they should choose. >> >> Anyway, two cents from a guy who wishes we got rid of pennies some 10 >> years ago, >> NYbill >> >> >> > > So here's the text from the site: > http://hackerpublicradio.org/stuff_you_need_to_know.php#explicit > <quote> > Your show will be signalled as containing explicit content > > Given that we are an open forum for free speech we signal all our shows > as "explicit" with the assumption that the listeners will apply the > required discretion when playing the shows in public. The fact is that > the majority of our content is technical in nature and therefore is > often considered appropriate for any audience. If you feel that your > show will be considered *inoffensive in every region of the world* then > you can signal that when you upload the show. > > When dealing with content that is "explicit" or contains material that > would best be suited for a mature audience, it has become traditional to > include a short warning at the very beginning of the show before the > intro, to allow listeners time to switch off the episode should they so > desire. > </quote> > > Logically what you say is correct, but in practice it isn't. > > The vast majority of shows submitted have the explicit tag changed to > "Clean". This means that they took a concious decision to do so. In many > many cases the clean tag was set while the intro/outro/synopsis was set > incorrectly. > > The majority of the people who submit as Explicit are people who I know > have made a deliberate stand to keep it "explicit" even though others > might consider the shows as "Clean". > > Right now, the only thing the "Explicit" Tag effects is the RSS feed > option to filter out clean shows. This is to allow people to stream HPR > in public areas. > > There was a previous discussion to switch the main feed from Explicit to > Clean and rely on shows to be correctly flagged. Currently all HPR shows > are marked as Explicit on iTunes and one failure to flag shows correctly > will get the entire feed removed. So requiring a concious decision is a > good thing for the feed in general as it offers protection from been > thrown off. > > But then we have the discussion about what is "Clean". Even Klaatu fell > foul of the clean tag, when he uploaded a avatar of an exploding head > from a horror film. I personally think it's all 100% bollox anyway, and > consider it a form of censorship as there is no way to protect everyone > from been offended. > > It is probably no harm to bring this topic up on the list to see if we > want to switch to clean as default for the feed, leaving it up to the > shows to be marked explicit. > Hi NYBill, Can I forward this to the list please ? Ken. -- Regards, Ken Fallon http://kenfallon.com http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30 There you go. ;) b
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