We still need more shows from people that have not posted this year.
What appears to be a "recording spree", is in fact people rushing to
post something to the queue to urgently fill a vacant slot. This is
undesirable for many reasons:
* Chasing the queue leads to burnout. The stress of monitoring and
filling upcoming empty slots eats into one's personal time. What was
supposed to be a hobby becomes a chore.
* We have already had comments that the quality of these shows suffer
as a result.
* Human nature results in people not posting a show when there are no
free slots in the coming month, versus when there are slots
available. Despite both queues containing the same number of shows.
* People stopping listening to HPR because the feed is full of the one
host that the listener doesn't like.
* HPR is a community podcast. That means more people need to
contribute. It should not be down to the few to keep the project going.
Moving shows around leads to confusion, dissatisfaction, and complaints.
This is why the Janitors now always ask permission to move shows, which
causes a delay in processing all the other shows. Given someone hasĀ
already have gone to the effort of recording a show, I think it's
reasonable to ask people to scroll down a bit before posting their next
show.
For those hosts that genuinely don't care when their shows are released,
then we can add an option to post to the "Don't care/Reserve/Emergency
Show" queue so that vacant slots are filled from there. That way the
hosts intentions is made clear from the outset, and the Janitors know
where they stand.
We need to at least try this two week spacing for hosts because I think
it will help balance the slow continuous trickle going out with the
bursts of shows coming in, and will make the actual state of the queue
more visible.
--
Regards,
Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
On 2023-05-15 22:20, Klaatu wrote:
I agree with minnix. Fewer rules make for easier compliance for the content
creator.
If we want to maximize incoming content, we should take what we can, when we
can, whenever the content provider wants.
If that means we have a week of just one host on a recording spree, that's OK.
People control their own playlist. They can mix it up as they prefer.
If we want to reserve the right to move episodes around as *we* see fit, then
let's stop asking people to reserve episode numbers and just say that content
gets scheduled as the scheduler sees fit.
We get to make the rules. If people don't like how HPR operates, then they
don't have to submit shows. There are lots of places to post stuff on the
Internet. We're just one place. Let's make it easy for people to create
content for HPR (and easy for HPR to publish daily, which is its stated goal.)
On Monday, May 15, 2023 7:51:44 PM NZST Ken Fallon wrote:
Hi All,
Thanks to all who sent in shows, but we still need more shows. I am
specifically looking for contribution from people who do not have
2023-??-?? as their "Last Show" on this page
https://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php
---
The following is taken with permission from the HPR matrix room.
https://matrix.to/#/#hpr:matrix.org
/From: minnix//
//@Ken Fallon (PA7KEN, G5KEN): if the survival of HPR depends solely
on new hosts, then you might as well fold the show. If the survival
of the show depends on just getting shows period with a smattering
of new hosts thrown in throughout the year, then it's good. If it
were me I would encourage everyone, old and new hosts, to send in
lots of shows. If you want the queue to be empty just to prove that
HPR needs new hosts, I bet that's easily accomplished, but I don't
see that changing the nature of reality, ie: it is what it is./
And my reply
if the survival of HPR depends solely on new hosts, then you
might as well fold the show.
Well that was the position we had HPR in back in 2010, and while
it's hard we managed to not miss a day since.
If the survival of the show depends on just getting shows period
with a smattering of new hosts thrown in throughout the year,
then it's good.
Yes this is a more realistic situation.
If it were me I would encourage everyone, old and new hosts, to
send in lots of shows.
Excellent idea and thanks for volunteering ;-) One word of warning
though is that some of the previous hosts do not like to be
contacted. You may want to consider sending reminders on
anniversaries, such as 5 years since the last show.
If you want the queue to be empty just to prove that HPR needs
new hosts, I bet that's easily accomplished, but I don't see
that changing the nature of reality, ie: it is what it is.
Well it's the difference between "@SGOTI and @Archer72 seem to be on
a recording spree" and "What another Emergency Show. I need to send
in some shows." Same reality but different effect.
The two week rule is intended to make queue management a easier, as
it will tackle the feast and famine of the submissions.
Call for shows work, but there are problems with it.
First they only reach a tiny fraction of the community here and on
the mailing list, which are probably the same people anyway. By
filling the free slots with Emergency/Reserve shows, we
automatically announce to the entire community that there were free
slots not filled, and that we now need another Emergency/Reserve
show to replace the one just posted.
Secondly the call for shows result in people going to the site to
see what the situation now is. If one host fills all the slots with
a series they have been working on, then the next person will see a
filled queue and not bother submitting a show. Unfortunately that
has happened on more than one occasion.
The two week rule, will spread out the slots which makes queue
management a lot easier.
---
This brings up the question, we have over 341 former hosts who have not
contributed this year. Any ideas on how to get some of them active again ?
--
Regards,
Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
On 2023-05-12 11:14, Ken Fallon wrote:
Hi All,
First , *w**e need shows immediately* as there is an empty queue next
week, and the number of Emergency/Reserve shows are also dwindling. So
please finish that show you were thinking of submitting and send it
in. If you don't care when it's released please put "Use as Emergency
show" in the show notes for now.
... hold music while you do that ...
I am concerned about the future of HPR, as a project where the shows
are produced by the community. At this rate we cease to be a bar camp
style podcast and become one where the shows are provided by a
rotating team of "regulars".
Ideally we would like it so that every show is contributed by a
different host, giving a 1:1 ratio between show and host. So far this
year all but 4 of the submissions are from hosts who submitted more
than one show, a 3:1 ratio. Ahuka aside, the majority are as a result
of kindhearted hosts who contribute shows at the last minute to fill
the vacant slots.
To make this problem more visible I would like to introduce the
following Scheduling Guideline "*No host should submit any more than
one show in a two week period.*" Of course these are guidelines etc
etc., but it should still allow prolific hosts to submit shows while
not masking the underlying issue that we have yet to address.
Which is: We need new hosts, but we also need old hosts who have not
submitted shows this year to submit a show.
How do we solve this problem ?
--
Regards,
Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
ID
Host
Total
159 HPR Volunteers 12
198 Ahuka 9
391 Some Guy On The Internet 8
318 Archer72 7
282 Mike Ray 5
30 Ken Fallon 5
326 Brian in Ohio 5
36 operat0r 3
365 Bookewyrmm 3
225 Dave Morriss 3
401 Mechatroniac 3
415 enistello 2
407 Celeste 2
268 Andrew Conway 2
152 Claudio Miranda 2
293 Rho`n 2
416 screwtape 2
342 norrist 2
238 Jon Kulp 2
375 minnix 2
201 MrX 2
408 Stache_AF 1
383 Paul Quirk 1
209 David Whitman 1
377 Zen_Floater2 1
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