I have only used CC 0 and CC BY SA for all of my own content in the various places I have posted, so it is fine with me. -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwil...@zwilnik.com http://about.me/zwilnik
“People shouldn't be afraid of their government. Governments should be afraid of their people.” - Alan Moore, V for Vendetta On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 12:04 PM Ken Fallon via Hpr <hpr@lists.hackerpublicradio.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I would like to officially request that the "non free" variants of the > Creative Commons licenses be removed from the HPR upload form. > > To remain Allowed > > CC 0 - This is a public domain license. > CC BY - This license is similar to a MIT/BSD source software license. > CC BY-SA - This license is similar to a copyleft free and open source > software license and is our default license. > > Request to Remove > > CC BY-ND as no edits or changes to the original work are allowed. > CC BY-NC as non-commercial use is not allowed. > CC BY NC SA as non-commercial use is not allowed. > CC BY NC ND as non-commercial use is not allowed and no edits or changes to > the original work are allowed. > > Existing shows will remain as is, but a concerted effort will be made to have > the hosts license their work to an approved license. > > For more information please see: > > https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/cclicenses/ > https://libguides.unm.edu/OER_Primer/common_open_licenses > https://creativecommons.org/faq/#does-my-use-violate-the-noncommercial-clause-of-the-licenses > https://hackerpublicradio.org/about.html#permission > https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/pipermail/hpr/2011-June/000384.html > https://hackerpublicradio.org/about.html#permission > > Background and reasoning > > HPR is dedicated to sharing knowledge, and while the Non Commercial (NC) and > No Derivatives (ND) licenses in theory do not hinder this, in practice they > do. > > No Derivatives (ND) > > Were a show to be submitted using No Derivatives (ND) on hobby electronics as > an example, we could not use that in a tutorial on HAM radio. > > There are only six shows that have a No Derivatives (ND) clause, and they all > are shows we published in their entirety as a showcase of other creative > commons works. > > Non Commercial (NC) > > When HPR started all shows were released under a CC-BY-NC-SA license. > Following discussion HPR: RFC Changing show to CC-BY-SA we switched to > CC-BY-SA. > > The Creative commons says > > CC’s NonCommercial (NC) licenses prohibit uses that are “primarily intended > for or directed toward commercial advantage or monetary compensation.” ... CC > cannot advise you on what is and is not commercial use. If you are unsure, > you should either contact the rights holder for clarification, or search for > works that permit commercial uses." > > Were a host to sell a usb stick containing our episodes at an event and sell > it (at cost or for a small markup to cover expenses), any Non Commercial (NC) > show could not be included. We could always ask permission on a case by case > basis, but that is not practical given we would need to contact 128 hosts. It > would also require the person who bought the usb stick from us to get > permission from all the NC hosts if they wish to sell it on to someone else. > > Selecting a NC license does not prevent Commercial Use, as can be shown from > the example of HPR4322 that is released under CC BY NC SA on all the major > platforms. > > https://open.spotify.com/episode/6YOAbND8nUrT4sRqmP9hAu?si=97727821ae574c19 > https://music.amazon.fr/podcasts/9d9e6211-ff78-4501-93b6-6a9e560c4dbd/episodes/5e454913-1874-4882-b682-962695ad062b/hacker-public-radio-hpr4322-fighting-smartphone-addiction > https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-hacker-public-radio-30994513/episode/hpr4322-fighting-smartphone-addiction-268901659/ > https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hpr4322-fighting-smartphone-addiction/id281699640?i=1000695663719 > https://www.listennotes.com/de/podcasts/hacker-public-radio/hpr4322-fighting-smartphone-2BqjJEXW796/ > https://player.fm/series/hacker-public-radio/hpr4322-fighting-smartphone-addiction > https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/hacker-public-radio-76781/episodes/hpr4322-fighting-smartphone-ad-242115152 > https://open.spotify.com/episode/6YOAbND8nUrT4sRqmP9hAu > https://toppodcast.com/podcast_feeds/hacker-public-radio/ > > They will argue that they are only sharing the feed, which is correct as the > media itself is coming from our servers. We could counter argue that they are > making money off our work, but alas we have no legal team. > > So in summary those who wish to profit from our shows do so secure in the > knowledge that we can't do anything about it, while we place a impossible > burden on those that wish to do the right thing. > > -- > Regards, > > Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN) > https://kenfallon.com > https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon > > _______________________________________________ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@lists.hackerpublicradio.com > https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/mailman/listinfo/hpr _______________________________________________ Hpr mailing list Hpr@lists.hackerpublicradio.com https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/mailman/listinfo/hpr
