Hi All,
Got the following comment on episode 4439.
*comment_author_name* (ASCII): Torin Doyle,
*comment_title* (EXTENDED): Please keep HPR a religion-free zone.,
*comment_text* (EXTENDED): Hi Ken et al. I'd rather HPR was kept as a
secular place.
https://hackerpublicradio.org/eps/hpr4439/index.html#comment_4394
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Hi Torin
First "Policy decisions are proposed and discussed on the Mailing list
<https://hackerpublicradio.org/maillist>, which is open to anyone to
join." https://hackerpublicradio.org/about.html#governance
I think most people agree that the show as posted fell outside what is
acceptable to discuss in a Hacker Space. We are a Tech Podcast dedicated
to sharing knowledge, but we are not stopping anyone talking about their
views on religion, politics, sex, distro of editor of choice, etc.. That
is part of who we are, and it informs us as people.
I for one would like to see people submit shows on religion that are
suitable for this Hacker Space. These might be technical in nature, or
more social like advice shows for people not of the faith but who have
been invited to attend an event in your place of worship, or coordinated
round table discussion/series of shows, with people of different/no
faiths posting their views on the same agreed topic with the same agreed
format. Just keep in mind that every religion has oppressed and been
oppressed, and that we are a welcoming community that offers positive
feedback and encourages respectful debate. Expect a well reasoned
response to follow from your post. You can use the new "Religion and
Spirituality" series, and keep to the one every two weeks guide line for
both host and series.
Anyone not into this kind of stuff can use the delete key, or filter out
that series.
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Regards,
Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
On 2025-08-07 17:45, Ken Fallon via Hpr wrote:
Hi Henrik,
Sorry for the delay in replying.
We can derive little from the host, except that they said they had no
where else to post it. That is a shame, given all the people that
commented on this post wanting to hear this exact type of thing.
Does anyone know of a religious podcast that accepts submissions like
this one ?
Ken.
On 2025-07-31 18:58, Henrik Hemrin via Hpr wrote:
Hi,
I have not read, nor requested, the transcript.
Based on the description and arguments by Ken/janitor, I am fine and
agree with the decision.
However, I want to share an open thought I have.
Beside the judgement of the content and reasoning described by Ken
below; has/can/should the decision take into account the previous
interaction/partcipation that the host(s) has had with HPR? I mean,
if the host(s) before eg has given shows which clearly are of hackers
interest, given relevant comments on other shows, interacted with HPR
at Matrix, Mastodon etc, in a positive hacker way, would that be
taken into account for decision for this particular episode. Or for
that matter the opposite, if such interactions have been of a very
non-hacker way. This in relation to if this rejected show was the
first known interaction with HPR by the host(s). Or is each show
fully only reviewed on its own merits.
Regards
Henrik Hemrin
Den 2025-07-25 kl. 11:12, skrev Ken Fallon via Hpr:
Hi All,
This is to inform you that I am rejecting a show on the grounds that
it falls under "hate speech/spam/using HPR as a means to push a
particular product or view".
This came to light when I was scrubbing
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Scrubbing_%28audio%29> through the
audio when posting the show. This is allowed by the policy We do not
vet, edit, moderate or in any way censor any of the audio you
submit, we trust you not to upload anything that will harm HPR.
Aside from checking snippets for audio quality/spam checking, we
have a policy that we don't listen to the shows before they are
aired. <https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/pipermail/hpr/2022-
June/004492.html>
The show itself would best be described as a religious sermon. Given
that is a particularly sensitive topic, I have consulted with some
HPR elders who have publicly shared their belief or lack their of,
to get their opinion. They unanimously agreed that it is spam, in
the sense of "using HPR as a means to push a particular product or
view".
The point has been made that it "could be of interest to hackers",
however the full policy is: There is no restriction on how long the
show can be, nor on the topic you can cover as long as they are not
spam and "are of interest to Hackers"
<https://hackerpublicradio.org/ about.html#community>, so that
doesn't apply in the case of spam. There will always be someone who
will click on a spam link, or the business model would not work.
We are a Tech Podcast dedicated to sharing knowledge, and we are not
stopping anyone talking about their views on religion, politics,
sex, distro of editor of choice, etc.. That is part of who we are,
and it informs us as people.
However this is also a Hacker Space, not a place of worship. That
said I have been happy to see many shows where people have been
working on something for their place of worship, and have received
support and assistance from people who were not of that faith. We
are a welcoming community that offers positive feedback and
encourages respectful debate
<https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/pipermail/hpr/2019-
December/003804.html>.
So if you have something to say then say it. Ideally in the form of
a show, as I'm currently posting yet another three shows from the
Reserve queue ;-(
Links
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrubbing_%28audio%29
*
https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/pipermail/hpr/2022-June/004492.html
* https://hackerpublicradio.org/about.html#community
* https://lists.hackerpublicradio.com/pipermail/hpr/2019-
December/003804.html
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Regards,
Ken Fallon (PA7KEN,G5KEN)
https://kenfallon.com
https://hackerpublicradio.org/hosts/ken_fallon
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