Hello,
I've started to study the BNF grammar files of SQL92 
(http://cui.unige.ch/db-research/Enseignement/analyseinfo/SQL92/BNFindex.html
and http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/%7Eshadow/sql/sql2bnf.aug92.txt).

I noticed a strange thing: the definition of identifier with rules instead of
regular expression used by the lexer. Since one lexer is very fast (compared to a 
parser),
I suggest to rewrite some parts of the SQL92 grammar as made in the AxionSQLParser.jj
or SQL.jj (from Mckoi) to make the grammar more simple to read. Moreover, we will have 
to
add the HSQLDB specific rules.

Here is a simple roadmap for this:
-1- rewrite the SQL92 grammar (in text or html format) and introduce lexer tokens such 
as
    identifier, integer, real... define states (used by the lexer) for comments and 
litterals.
-2- add the HSQLDB specific rules
-3- write the lexer (use one that already exists or from scratch)
-4- write the parser (use one that already exists or from scratch)
-5- tests (SQL syntax, performance...)

steps 3-4-5 are repeated until the results are conform with the target: a fast SQL 
statements analyzer.

What do you think?

Loic

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Hi Loic,

Sure, as you said before one should start to write  the grammer at some
point.

Specifically, it would be a good idea to use the  names used by the SQL 92,
99 and 03 standards (you need to replace spaces  with the underscore).
These you can find in the standards texts, but it seems  some people have
compiled them into BNF or similar grammar files. If there is no  licensing
issue, we can use such files as a starting point.

Please go to the link that Campbell posted to find  an SQL92 grammar file.
(there is also a link to one on our  homepage)

I think you and Liuxin could form a good  partnership. You are very capable
in getting things done while it seems he  is more into deep theory than
practice (he is an assistant researcher in China's  Academy of Computer
Science, a highly respected institution). I won't be heavily  involve in
this until it gets to the point of building expressions, which I  will have
to incorporate into the rest of the engine.

Fred

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Hello,
What do you think about  it?

Loic




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If you intend to write a parser for the supported  HSQLDB-SQL syntax, you
should begin to write the grammar.
It will help  you to identify the common parts plus it will easily help to
define the  terminals for the lexer and the
regular expressions to define integers,  decimals, identifiers and so on.

Here is a (very) little extract of  what may be done as a first step:



Lo?c

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There aren't any document. Try to debug  Parser.ParseSelect(...). This
calls
private methods of Parser to build the  expression tree. Parser methods
call
Tokenizer methods for  tokens.

Fred

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I dived into the source code using some test cases to debug  step by step
those days ,but still confused, any documents will be  appreciated!


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