On December 22, 2010 08:23:56 pm john doe wrote:
> i didnt upload the file yuval did it..

It's called garbage-in garbage-out, and you better look at what you are doing 
before pushing the responsibility onto others.

*You* uploaded the files [0][1] to this mailing list.  I asked if they should 
be included and you [2] agreed.

To be perfectly honest with you, I did this only to get a nuisance off my 
back.  I should not have put on the political correctness filter from the 
start,  even if this means adding another entry to my long enough list of 
"online-friends".  It's never too late to remove the political correctness 
filter, so here is some feedback to you, John Doe aka. Guerrero de Luz aka. 
Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria:

1.  FACT: es_la is a locale that does not exist [3][4].  es_la.po is a 
completely harmless file, because nobody will ever use it.

2.  FACT: all of *your* posted/contributed files fail the basic test of 
`msgfmt -c --statistics`

3.  It is the responsibility of every contributor - whether coder, builder, or 
translator, to make sure that they know what they are doing.  Things are 
documented well enough that for most thing the answers you are looking for are 
at [5] (for translators) and at [6] (for bleeding edge Ubuntu users).

4.  Most translations are contributed by *teams*.  In a team, people work 
together.  I have not seen you working together with anybody.

5.  Team members are aware of each other.  I have not seen you aware of 
others' work or advice.

6.  Team members try to find an answer to their question in the documentation 
before asking others to find it for them.

7.  Team members take responsibility for their work and mistakes, not push it 
onto others.

8.  I have not seen any positive behavior from you on Hugin-PTX and I was 
happy that you did put yourself in a sandbox (es_la.po) where you could not 
affect Hugin and its main Spanish-language translation.  Unfortunately this 
was short-sighted thinking of mine:  the problem is not going away.  My 
mistake.  Maybe this feedback will solve it, one way or another.

9.  Using pseudonyms does not help to make you more credible or likable.

10.  Flooding the mailing list with plenty of trivial questions that are 
answered in the documentation only makes you look like a troll.  I explained 
to you in private conversation a couple of weeks ago how to get the latest 
Hugin for your platform, so WTF is [7]?

11.  "Ideas" such as [8] only serve to show how little you understand of 
software in general and Open Source software in particular.

To be perfectly honest with you, the behavior I am seeing from you on Hugin-
PTX made me classify you as troll.  And the best strategy for trolls is to 
ignore/dismiss them.  If you don't get much answer in the future, you know 
why.

If you want to become a contributor to Hugin, please stop trolling and learn 
to be a team player, collaborate with others, understand what you are doing 
and how it affects (or not) the project.

Yuv (the politically incorrect)


[0] http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/7de46f95531c9a6b
[1] http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/bbe7b4794733770c
[2] http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/1652c2d8de6ae88a
[3] http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/all/locales/filelist
[4] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0h88fahh%28VS.85%29.aspx
[5] http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide
[6] http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_Compiling_Ubuntu
[7] http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/bfe58676cb464757
[8] http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/9c72c0c951910a63

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