Kay, Just a suggestion. Make two pto files. One with 8mm and one with 18mm.
Now merge these pto using hugin merge project and than stitch. I once forgot
to capture sky in my 18mm but i added sky from another panorama this way and
hugin blended it well.

But you are right stack working in hugin must be improved.  Hugin should
also detect bracketing/stack from exif. One more thing for handheld
panoramas there must be option to enfuse_allign option for stacks.



On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 11:40 AM, kfj <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 22 Sep., 23:22, Bruno Postle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > As I understand it, Hugin only uses the stack numbers for linking
> > positions during optimisation.
>
> I am not using the stacks to position the images - I uncheck the
> positional link. What I use them for (apart from the obvious, which
> doesn't work) is to set the CPG on the right track. I use cpfind for
> both detectors in the 'stacked panorama' scenario. This way, I only
> get CPs to images in another stack via the middle exposures, and the
> CPs to fine-adjust the stacks inside the image, but no interstack CPs
> for the other exposures.
>
> > However stitching ignores these stack numbers.  With 'exposure
> > fusion' enabled it just looks at which photos overlap at least 70%
> > (by area) to determine which to fuse as stacks before blending.
>
> This, then, is the source of my problem
>
> > This does mean that small photos that overlap with large photos may
> > get fused even if you would prefer them to be blended.
>
> Thanks for your analysis. I now managed to circumvent the problem by
> stitching first the 8mm exposures and then the 18mm ones to finally
> blend the two subpanoramas into one. This is a cumbersome process,
> though, and it would be much easier if the stitching process could
> honour stacks if they are present and only do it's undocumented
> hardcoded 70% trick when run in the 'exposure fusion from stacks from
> arbitrary arrangement' mode. The current behaviour is misleading,
> since a user who has assigned stacks will expect that an 'exposure
> fusion from stacks' will in fact fuse these stacks, and not some
> stacks the program makes up itself. In fact, the 'direct' route should
> be simpler - the stacks are already set up, so there's no need to do
> any trickery to make them up from thin air.
>
> > Hugin currently doesn't give any indication of these calculations in
> > the GUI, you have to stitch to find out what will happen.  It would
> > be nice to show it somehow in the Preview, or just list the stacks
> > in the Stitcher tab, or maybe a python plugin could list them.
>
> I was working on stacks with an hsi/hpi plugin. The first plugin I
> wrote was one to automatically assign stacks of three images to a all
> images in a project - usually my brackets are of three images, and the
> plugin (which works fine) helps me often :)
>
> The problem with it is twofold: firstly, the 'three images' shouldn't
> be hardcoded. I can use wxPython on my system to let it ask for the
> desired number, but passing parameters to hsi/hpi plugins has not been
> implemented for other platforms, even though it's the single most
> urgent feature lacking to help hsi/hpi to become a useful tool.
>
> Secondly, I tried to penetrate the logic which is used inside hugin to
> assign/change/revoke stack numbers. In particular I failed to cleanly
> implement behaviour like unstacking of all images and restacking with
> a different images-per-stack number, not to mention assigning a
> different scheme to a subset of images. As obvious as the stacking is
> inside the pto file, as obscure is the handling inside the C++ code. I
> couldn't fathom it, so I asked for help here:
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/2bb6f69866c56ad5#
>
> as you can see, noone answered my question. Since this was all the
> help I got I kept my plugin to myself. Every user who posts a 'hugin
> cannot stitch my holiday snaps' message tends to get at least an
> answer pointing them to the documentation, so I was pissed off by this
> non-echo, even after asking a second time.
>
> I think there should be a button in hugin saying 'autodetect stacks'
> which triggers the 70% trick and reflects it by assigning the
> autodetected stacks to the images. the 'exposure fusion from stacks'
> should use the extant stacks, if present, and if not present it might
> ask if it should try to autodetect or plain abort. And the 'exposure
> fusion from arbitrary arrangement' should autodetect stacks if no
> stacks are present and might complain if stacks have been previously
> assigned and conflict with it's autoamtically generated ones.
>
> Kay
>
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