On 11/04/2013 11:41 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
2013/11/4 T. Modes <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Hi Frederic,
Am Montag, 4. November 2013 15:19:15 UTC+1 schrieb Frederic Da Vitoria:
I have been wondering: why not use Hugin_stitch_project as
default? How often do Hugin users really need to batch assemble
several panoramas at the same time or shut off their computer
when the panorama is finished assembling?
That is a disagreement inside itself. How should the issues fixed,
if nobody tests it and help so to improve it.
You have often advised new users to use hugin_stitch_project
instead. That is not helpful at all. This should be the last step,
if all other solutions don't work.
I advised the users some steps to try to solve the issue (because I
think in most cases it is a special configuration or the issue is
behind the keyboard.)
But with your advise to use hugin_stitch_project there was never a
substantial feedback to improve the behaviour of PTBatcherGUI.
OK, I'll refrain from advising this from now on. But you realize that
similar problems have been going on for several months (more than a
year?), that it generates frustrated Windows users (I have a hunch this
is a Windows-specific issue) and that in the Windows world, the general
user behavior is: "if the software doesn't work, then use another one"?
Windows users who know what a bug tracker is (I am not even saying "who
know how to use a bug tracker") are few. So that letting users get hit
by PTBatcherGUI problems might achieve getting less Hugin users instead
of solving the PTBatcherGUI issue.
You never used PTBatcherGUI and have therefore not contributed
active to its improvement as you always demand.
Thomas
PS: If you reduce PTBatcherGUI to a batch stitcher you have not
leashed its full power. It contains a lot more functions.
You are right, I had never looked at all it could do. Checking the
documentation... Sorry, I just checked, it still does not contain any
option I would use. And I don't expect this to change because:
- I never do panoramas with more than a dozen pictures (usual number is
3 - 4), so that the assembly time is usually much lower than my
patience, and I don't have the time to start a new panorama during the
batch phase,
- I do many panoramas in mosaic mode, often also "time lapse", and a
little exposure or focus blending, while PTBatcherGUI seems to make most
sense if you use the assistant,
- I always shoot hand held (I don't even own a tripod) so that automatic
assembling is often hopeless, while post-processing individual images
generated with Hugin allows me to get acceptable results. I don't expect
any software, even one which I would have paid big sums of money for, to
be smart enough to make something usable out images with parallax
errors. I know, I should change my methods, but I don't even want to buy
a SLR because of the weight, so a tripod is completely out of my scope.
Well, I shoot handheld, with a DSLR, without tripod, with anywhere from
4-12 frames, and never use the assistant. PTBatcherGui works just fine
for me. I know it has other functions than just queueing jobs, but it
doesn't cause any problems.
I've also rendered strips of as many as 72 frames, where things worked
just fine with PTBatcherGui. Those were also handheld shots (well, sort
of - the camera was resting on the rail of a ferry as it chugged the
last 10 miles or so into the harbor at Victoria, British Columbia).
I understand that other users can find PTBatcher useful. But this is
simply currently not true for me. All that PTBatcher would do for me is
add an unnecessary and useless step, with all the risks of something
going wrong and the added complexity of finding if that problem would
come from Hugin or from PTBatcherGUI.
I don't think PTBatcherGUI causes any problems. At least not on Linux.
Windows, on the other hand, is enough of a problem all by itself, in my
opinion ... ;-)
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