On Wed, 2019-08-21 at 20:25 -0500, Pat David wrote: > Leaving already? :)
Did I ever come back? > Or was that more of a "goodbye, please leave"? That would have been inappropriate. I hope you did not understand it that way. > Just to clarify I did not want to embark into spending time I do not have. I can sympathize with the OP, and at the same time criticize him for - not advocating properly for Discourse, resulting in misunderstanding (it is junk, but it is still Open Source in letter and in spirit) - expecting others (read: the list-admin) to do the work that he himself should be contributing if this is so important to him I can also sympathize with many list-oldtimer who reacted conservatively to the half-baked proposal, all while criticizing some of them for the FUD / conspiracy theories thrown at the OP. > Small side note - the infrastructure is paid for The cost of infrastructure are negligible. Time is the scarce non- renewable resource. And you do not live on thin air and water either, I dare to assume? > I happen to agree that Gitlab would be a fantastic option for > migration (hosting yourselves I would imagine?). Would have to analyze the different hosting options before expressing an informed opinion, including hosting with the original creators; hosting with an opportunistic third party; self-hosting on a generic cloud instance; self-hosting in somebody's basement, etc. There are so many factors to consider, a quick answer is neither possible nor desirable. Self-hosting in the basement is surely a starting point, if only to learn about the details involved to be able to make a reasonable and viable decision. I was responsible for the migration of Hugin from SVN to Hg. In hindsight I regret not pushing more for git, but back then Windows- support in git was lacking, and back then the benefit of moving to a distributed VCS outweighted the effort (and there were no real drawbacks). I was also responsible for the migration of the bug tracker from SourceForge to Launchpad. Still an OK tool for bug tracking. Github and Gitlab would be a better choice today, but the gap is not sufficient to justify the effort IMHO. Again, back then the cost/benefit analysis was positive. I believe that different circumstances call for different solutions. I run some services out of my server cabinet; run other services out of the public cloud; source other services from intermediaries; and even mix and match any of the above. Redundancy is more often good than bad. The more, the merrier. In that sense, I welcome your initiatives like I welcome any other initiative and contribution. The reason for me not to join is that Discourse does not add benefit to developers, but it does add cost. Using it is more time-consuming than a mailing list. So again, at 00:45AM before a work-loaded Friday: Hello and goodbye, was nice to meet you. I look forward to read curated content on Pixls.us when I have the time, but I will not spend time trying to weed out the wheat from the chaff in the discuss section. One of the problems of many-to-many web based communication tools is that it is not possible to discern the quality of the advice without significant time investment. Stackoverflow has a partial solution that is not bad but still more difficult to follow / participate than mailing lists. I still find curated collections superior, and even one-to-many blogs that enable the reader to reasonably ascertain the quality/expertise of the author and deliberately decide to follow their writing/publishing. Happy to continue the conversation when time allows. Yuv -- A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hugin-ptx/09c14a3efc2328c5ee18143e48b4587cc9653af0.camel%40levy.ch.
