Hi all, Just looked in and see nothing has really changed around here.
Poor old Geoff still getting a roasting. Linda still posting mad comments IN CAPS! Geoff seems to be singled out as the 'unbeliever' and shunned for his opinions, which are just as valid as any others here. While I do not agree with Geoff that the hum is entirely caused by LF tinnitus, I do believe that the tinnitus 'mechanism', externally stimulated, may have something to do with my own personal hum. Question: is there anyone who hears the hum who does not suffer from conventional tinnitus? I do. My wife and kids don't. I hear the hum, and they don't. Ok - a very small sample size I admit, but do all hum sufferers have 'conventional' tinnitus - even if only mildly? I have noted on other forums (fora?) that musicians are fairly well represented in the hum sufferer category. I am (or rather was) a professional keyboard player in my early twenties to mid thirties and must have spent hundreds of hours on stages and in studios being bombarded with many hundreds of Watts of noise. My hearing has been affected somewhat - though not to the point of being a disability. My 'silence' consists of a constant, faint, very high-pitched tone in both ears. My hum, however, is completely distinct and separate from this. This is a perplexing and puzzling problem, but the only way we can identify and isolate it is by rational thought and clear-headed analysis. Please don't disparage Geoff for wanting to look at the problem objectively, and demand proof and evidence. The clutching at tired old straws that goes on here (UFOs, HAARP, ELF, government conspiracies, 'THEM' etc.) makes me despair, frankly. Without rational thought and objectivity, we are no better than madmen. On Nov 18, 2:58 pm, Trev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't believe Geoff is fake but does have a mission to confirm that > his reality of audio engineering expertise and medical situation is > enough to explain the Hum. > The irritation that others don't agree with him is what drives his > input imo. > You will just have to learn to ignore his pointed comments Dee -as > right from the early days he was questioning your sanity- just because > you have a fertile imagination and lack some technical expertise. > You have as much right as anyone to post your thoughts and Geoff will > always oppose anything that is not LF tinnitus on this broad > unexplained sub topic of Hum. > Possible contenders to our problem are: > > EM smog > Dodgy programs never admitted to by Gov't, I'll wager. > HF Tinnitus > LF Tinnitus (maybe) > Industrial noise production > Planetary unknowns (suspected) > and... > Geoff- > but he is sincere and keeps the temperature up in what could be rather > a dry arena,otherwise ! > > I do agree though, that the flow of discussion is often hampered by > 'same same' comments -and that seems a bit underhand /unhelpful -as we > try to float new ideas here. > Geoff seems to have adopted the role of Witchfinder General on here as > well as Medical Advisor (Mental Health Division) -but you must > remember that NZ is a long way away from everyone else and has many > strange life forms :) > > On Nov 18, 8:49 am, "Geoff Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:hum- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dboots > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2008 7:33 p.m. > > > To: Hum Sufferers > > > Subject: Re: TRACING THE HUM/Article Epoch Times(John Dawes) > > > > Geoff What the heck are you doing on this forum if you are going > > > to continually infer things like "Ie lack of general well being " "are > > > THE > > > CAUSE OF THE HUM? > > > > It is a waste of our time as well as your time. > > > Your idea of "a waste of time" is accepting the obvious truth, and > > concentrating on trying to isolate the cause/s ? > > > Then your idea of "good use of time" is then fawning all over all the more > > often than not idiotic hypotheses commonly presented here ?!!! > > > Again: > > I am certain there are 'two' Hums. One are the very real physical hums, > > often heard around the house or elsewhere, and may be exacerbated by raised > > sensitivity to low frequencies for various reasons. > > > The other Hum - the one that we are more interested in - is the sound that > > sufferers hear that others can't, and cannot be measured by any known means. > > I strongly believe that this is the commonly known and accepted LF form of > > tinnitus. > > > The two hums MAY be interrelated, or not. I suffer from both, and they are > > clearly distinct. What we need to find is the causes or triggers, and > > hopefully treatments. In my case for the Hum I believe a major trigger to be > > stress, sleep deprivation, and general poor well-being. For the real hums, > > my cause is easily blocked inner ear passages. Judging by the comments of > > pretty much all others on this list, including yourself, these would seem to > > be a logical conclusions for most if not all sufferers here. > > > It is sad that most here have been driven to distraction to the point of > > seemingly desperate need for belief in all sorts of extraordinary delusional > > fantasies. Not to mention paranoia. > > > I want the TRUTH. I DESPISE the pseudo-scientific drivel that is espoused > > here, and will not flinch from expressing that when I think fit. I feel the > > Hum is the least of many of the 'problems' faced by some list members here. > > > geoff --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. 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