Geoff - Missed who this was from the first time around.......... Just for saying it's sake here - I am absolutely without a clue what is happening when it comes to the biological reactions that are occurring here. Throughout my entire life nothing has bothered me; no health problems, allegeries, blights, phobias, nothing. In fact, nothing fazes me, absolutely nothing. Then this came along and...........BAM! - hit me like a sledgehammer, knocked me sideways and down. Last night was the worst reaction yet, on my knees in pain as this low frequency noise hit me in the gut - but at 28.4Hz? 17Hz and lower I can understand - Crowd control frequency blasts work as low as 7Hz, 17Hz has proven dibilitating effects on humans, both emotional and physical. I think, at this point, that the "splurge" of leakage from the power lines contains many subharmonics and the most prevalent in dBC terms is what instrumentation "sees" - Conjecture only there. Last night it was flip-flopping back and forth between 58.27 and 91.6Hz give or take a few tonic cents.
There is a huge amount of work behind the posts that I have made on this forum. People on this forum can ACTUALLY hear this noise, and yet they are reluctant to accept factual evidence as to what it may be. What chance does anyone have of convincing those that do not hear it? This is a highly technical and complex problem. Right here and right now, there are two components to my problem. B-PLC/BPL and the equipment being used to ensure the smooth flow of this B-PLC/BPL's carrier wave signal over the transmission lines. Somehow, electrical utilities have convinced government bodies that the resulting health effects are trivial both here a in Canada (which are on the same grid). Nothing could be further from the truth. Please read my posts on this forum and the story unfolds. I will look out for your questions posted here. I believe that I have gotten further with my research than most people. I also have the evidence and proof to back up my claims. The problem now is to "uncover" the cover up and force the Powers That Be to "fess up". There are far more superior technical means that are more economically viable of achieving what is being attempted here with B-PLC/BPL. On Dec 13, 12:36 pm, Vic <[email protected]> wrote: > Explained in Hum Busted - Part 4; here's an excerpt: > > Harmonic frequencies are summed together with the fundamental power > frequency (50 or 60Hz normally), the result is a distorted voltage > and/ > or current waveform, no longer the pure sine wave that originated > back > at the generator. So why are only the harmonic frequencies present, > such as 180Hz, 240Hz, 300Hz, and so on? How does electronic equipment > know to generate only those frequencies? What’s wrong with 178Hz or > 316Hz? They are and they are called “interharmonics” or frequencies > between the harmonic frequencies. A special category of those > interharmonic frequencies are the subharmonics, which are frequencies > below the fundamental frequency. These are more common, and are often > the source of the voltage fluctuations that result in light flicker. > Subharmonics can also be produced as the result of the interaction > between harmonic and interharmonic frequencies. For example, 180Hz > and > 185Hz signals together would result in a 5Hz signal that falls in the > subharmonic region. > > The frequency that was evident last night, according to my > instrumentation, was 91.6Hz (If I put 90.6 in my last, it was a typo). > This is an interharmonic of 60 and 120Hz. Take 91.6 from 120 and you > have 28.4Hz.This entire series of events is most peculiar. The lowest > bass note on a piano, for instance, is 27.5Hz; people can hear that > without a problem. The Hum, as we know, is continuous albeit > fluctuating. The only reason that I can hit on is that this Hum, as we > call it, is J-U-U-S-T outside of "normal" hearing range (normal here > being those without dBC hearing). > > However, that being said, 28.4Hz is the highest subharmonic that I > have encountered in my instrumentational research and studies. This > Hum that I've got here, goes from 3.7354Hz to exactly 20Hz as a rule. > All in the 40dBA and/or 58-60dBC range - Rule of thumb here: Add about > a third to the dBA value to get to dBC weighted value (at this dB > level it's about 0.3. But OK-a-a-y! So it was an approximation). By > the way, don't think I have stated this previously, the FCC over here > limit on unitentional transmitter's emissions in the dBC weighted > range is 20dBC and has to be tested for over 37 harmonics by law. FCC > Part 15: Extension (or something like that off of the top of my head). > > In the UK, you do have the option of OFCOM (or whatever it's called) > as stated previously, but that probably fell through the cracks. > > And, as an aside. Trev, you were right regarding BPL being on the > sidelines in the UK. With a max. data throughput of just 500kbs, it > pales against BT fiberoptics network going in right now all over > (according to the Daily Telegraph website there Will). Limitless bps, > well, insofar as technological advances allow and BT "throttling" the > pipeline. Right now speeds of 40Gbps (Cisco multiplexed 4 channel X > 10Gbps modem) are attainable with fiberoptic connections. > > I sent all my stuff to Sweden, Canada, NZ, and Aussie thus far - They > all said "Thanks, we'll check it out". > > I'll check out your link to Leventhall later. > > A-n-d, Jeez! I was wish I was a shill, at least I'd be getting paid > for doing all of this shi............ > > On Dec 13, 10:56 am, "Geoff Leventhall" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Vic > > > Before you leave us to simmer down, could you explain exactly what you meant > > in your earlier post today about being woken up by "a 90.6Hz subharmonic's > > audible distortion of the 1st harmonic of the 60Hz source, that's a 28.4Hz > > sonic wave. It was in the 60dBC range" I can't work out the maths. > > > Geoff > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > Seewww.lowfrequency2012.orgforthe 15th International Conference on > > Low Frequency Noise and Vibration and its Control > > Stratford on Avon, UK, May 22-24 2012 > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > Dr Geoff Leventhall > > Consultant in Noise Vibration and Acoustics > > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Vic" <[email protected]> > > To: "Hum Sufferers" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:33 PM > > Subject: Re: Interharmonics ARE the Hum > > > Thank you Trev > > > Exactly right. And I never stated that I had ALL of the causes of the > > Hum pinned down. I'm not saying that what I've solved here is the be- > > all and end-all, but it's going to cure a lot of people's hum > > problems. > > > This Hum is being generated by rectifier equipment supplying (DC) > > electronics on top of 138KV poles here. These electronics are > > switching (among other things out there) IntelliCAP PLUS Automatic > > Capacitor (Controls are specifically designed for the control of pole- > > mounted and pad-mounted switched capacitor banks in electric > > distribution systems) - That's right out of the brochure there folks! > > > The inter/subharmonics are shooting in both directions, colliding with > > the power sine wave and producing the harmonics. They've got an > > abundance of electrical power - All that the substation can supply > > i.e. A lot. The resulant colliding subharmonics/power sine wave > > produced dBC sound waves penetrate deeply. I've heard them, without > > any degredation in volume, in a cellar with no doors or windows and > > below ground on all 4 sides. > > > As it shoots along the power line and reaches a finger joint it joins > > with (in my case here) an already radiated B-PLC/BPL carrier wave and > > it's associated "piggy-backed" microwave signal and it all radiates > > away in a "splurge" - BPL, microwaves, sub/interharmonic mix-up. It > > drags large amounts of power-related electrons with it i.e. It gets > > amplified as it pulls away. The electron portion gets into the house > > wiring, the noise part enters the atmosphere as a resultant dBC sonic > > wave which, as we know, most people don't hear. > > > I called the electric utility company this morning and told them of > > the gut pain that I had experienced last night due to the above. The > > operator stated that she would pass it on to "Service" and have > > someone come out to my home - They won't. "They" know that I know what > > this is and won't listen to their conconted stories. "They" know that > > the sh*t is about to hit the fan over it too. > > > That this forum believes my research or not is up to the individual > > member. But let's be mature about how we go about this shall we? Cut > > the name calling. I was glad to find this forum as it proved that I > > was not alone in my "hearing" experience. > > > And Will. Who is anyone on this forum that is sufficiently important > > that a "plant" or "shill" would be directed here? That costs money to > > do. I don't believe that even 61 people pulling together (which we are > > not) could make the slightest difference to "their" cover up - Do you? > > Honestly. > > > OK - I'm going to leave everybody to simmer down for a while and > > (perhaps) assimilate some of the facts that I've posted here. > > > On Dec 13, 8:02 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Westinghouse are/were in Chippenham, near me. My old favourite pub > > > The Mermaid is not far up the road from there, but it's been turned > > > into an eatery now and lost it's olde world charm. I think Vic has a > > > genuine interest in nailing hum, but Will is right to say it doesn't > > > cover all aspects by inference. eg: the report Vic posted showed a > > > spectrum including ELF but the voltages were all very low and unless > > > of a exceptionally low source impedance wouldn't make the earth rock > > > easily. Just a quick stab to show people are reading your output, if > > > not agreeing to all, Vic! A considered response is a long way off due > > > to complexities involved,as you must be aware.No reason I don't > > > believe you have/are onto a problem in PA. > > > On Dec 13, 12:05 pm, Vic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > You're obviously not reading or not understanding what I have posted > > > > and seeing only what you want to see. I'm open to reasonable debate - > > > > Anybody got any? Have you got other ideas? I have proven that what I > > > > have researched is a reality be getting up off of my ass/arse and > > > > going out and proving it. All you do is sit around moaning about it, > > > > and yes, babbling - Same as everybody else. What I have posted is not > > > > a theory - It's proven and backed by copious amounts of data - No > > > > conjecture. > > > > > Last night I was woken up doubled over from a 90.6Hz subharmonic's > > > > audible distortion of the 1st harmonic of the 60Hz source, that's a > > > > 28.4Hz sonic wave. It was in the 60dBC range and hurt like Hell. What > > > > am I doing about it? I'm suing the assholes in a court of law. 2nd > > > > time around I've got my act together and am backed up with evidence > > > > and proof - Yep, I'm doing this for fun alright. > > > > > Electrical power is ubiquitous worldwide. It is the only man-made item > > > > that is suffieciently widespread to be a suspect. The Hum is the same > > > > worldwide. The cover-up is the same worldwide. > > > > > This forum now has the data, it's up to the individual to look at the > > > > data and make up their own minds. You're pretty good at throwing out > > > > reasons WHY NOT. How about putting forward a tangible argument for WHY > > > > the Hum exists? - "They're picking on me don't cut it." > > > > > Catch you later - I've got better things to do. > > > > > Victor > > > > > On Dec 13, 5:06 am, Will Godson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I've tried to tell you you are wrong about the hum but you are not > > > > > interested. You continue to babble on about EMF, filling this forum up > > > > > with nonsense. This is a shill troll tactic. If you really gave a damn > > > > > you would be open to a reasonable debate. 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