Mr. Bhasker's contention that I have suggested that only journalists of different groups should be entitled to report on their affairs, is a far-fetched blame and a fiction that is the making of his own self-serving logic.
The quality of reporting by reporters is my real concern. Seema Chisti's report is clearly an open hatched job on Jamate Islamie Hind. I have drawn my own conclusions, why she has come out with such biased reporting. Others may not agree to it. They have as much right to hold their opinion, as I have. Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:09 AM, BRP Bhaskar <[email protected]> wrote: > Mr Ghulam Mohammed is labouring under a misunderstanding. I have not > questioned his right to form an opinion and express it. What I have > questioned is the rationality of his position. His rejoinder only compounds > the irrationality. I do not know Seema Chishti. I do not also know who she > is married to. All that is immaterial to the points I have made. > > Apparently Mr Ghulam Mohammed wants only those belonging to the Muslim > mainstream of his conception to report on the activities of Muslim > organizations. If this argument is extended, Advani and Modi will have the > right to decide who should report on the activities of Sangh Parivar. This > is preposterous. Let me repeat: It is sickening to find such material in a > human rights group. > > Muslims suffer serious disabilities in our society and polity and Muslim > organizations are entitled to build common platforms with other sections of > society who too suffer similar disabilities. However, when we discuss > individual political / religious organizations, polarization cannot be > avoided. > > BRP Bhaskar > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Niloufer Bhagwat <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The Jammat-e-ulema-e-Hind did not ask for a high level inquiry from >> the Home Ministry into >> the assassination of Advocate Shahid Azmi whose services were exploited by >> them there >> is a silence on this assassination by the organization who ought to have >> insisted on a special >> investigation .Nothing has been done by any of the organizations with whom >> Shahid Azmi >> worked , he was led to his slaughter and then discarded in death . >> >> Niloufer Bhagwat >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Niloufer Bhagwat <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 25, 2011 8:06 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [humanrights-movement:3797] Jamaate-e-Islami-e Hind tests >> watersto launch its own party - By Seema Chishti - The Indian Express, >> Mumbai >> >> It is necessary to recall the role played by the Jamaate-e-Islami during >> the freedom movement and its role in the >> Kashmir Valley to formulate a correct political opinion . When the worst >> pogroms were taking place against minorities >> in the country with fascist policies in place under corporate control of >> vital regions , none of the organizations professing political Islam in >> India were able to play any role at all , neither did they desire to >> analyze the real reasons behind the cruel attacks on minorities and >> economically weaker sections .There is a concern that unless the young >> Muslim youth are incorporated into religious politics they may play a vital >> role in the new democratic awakening sweeping one country after another . >> >> Religious divide and rule requires political parties of the religious >> majority and religious minority and most of them have their roots in >> Colonial India . It is not surprising that members of the Muslim brotherhood >> are based in London and Osama bin Laden had purchased valuable properties in >> Britain . The unfortunate use of political Islam as a safety valve for >> Imperialism and Capitalism cannot be underestimated , we have seen their >> misuse in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan among other countries and the most >> horrific example is British India . >> >> Till to-day even organizations like Jammat-e- ulema -e-Hind who exploited >> the professional services of Advocate Shahid Azmi from a lower middle class >> family have requested the Union Home Ministry for a high level investigation >> into his assassination just as a similar investigation is required into the >> assassination of the late Joint Commissioner of Police , Mr.Hemant Karkare , >> Mr.Kamat and other police officers and policemen at VT and Cama Hospital >> premises and other sites . >> >> Our first loyalty is to humanity , everything else comes thereafter . >> Religion is not religion unless it is used in the service of humanity as a >> whole not a sectarian denomination , a hungry man is hungry irrespective of >> whether he/she is a Hindu or a Muslim . It is when minorities were >> collectively singled out for collective murders that voices had to be raised >> and the fascist political policies of corporate houses which includes >> foreign and Indian Transnational Companies and Banks had to be analyzed . >> >> If the East India Company and its activities in India , Asia and other >> countries is forgotten , no one can move forward to a better political >> system . Not a single religious philosophy no matter how spiritual is >> adequate to enable us to understand economic phenomena in the 21st Century . >> Religion is concerned with the divinity and philosophy and ethics which has >> its own private space , whereas economic and political events require a >> dissection of economic and political decision making and whether they meet >> the needs of all sections of society or whether the profits are restricted >> to a few . >> >> The Radia tapes were not about religion they disclosed that most political >> parties were directly controlled by corporate interests. There is no >> religious answer to this phenomena of financial institutions , Banks and >> Corporations bankrupting national exchequers of G7 countries among others >> and reducing Afghanistan and Afpak to a Narco state with the drug trade >> being laundered into bankrupt western financial institutions and banks even >> as millions are affected by unemployment and loss of social security . We in >> India are of course used to this situation . However soon hunger will stalk >> the land , may be we will ask the hungry to pray to God so that they can >> speedily go to heaven or be reborn in better conditions !!!!! >> >> This is not what the Egyptian people did !!!!!!!! The Arab uprisings will >> continue and Ulemas will not be able to stop them , unless a better economic >> and political system takes the place of dictatorships and monarchies . >> Similarly one country after another will see uprisings and no religious >> party will be able to prevent it as the root cause of the present situation >> is not religion but the existing economic , political and social systems >> reeking of injustice . >> >> >> >> Niloufer Bhagwat >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* BRP Bhaskar <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:40 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [humanrights-movement:3797] Jamaate-e-Islami-e Hind tests >> watersto launch its own party - By Seema Chishti - The Indian Express, >> Mumbai >> >> I do not find anything in this report to justify the observation that the >> reporter "is not necessarly enamoured of either any religion or Islam in >> particular". Assuming it is so, how is it anybody else's business if she is >> not enamoured of any religion? I do not also see any basis for accusation >> that this is a hatchet job. It's sickening to find such material in this >> group. >> BRP Bhaskar >> >> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Ghulam Muhammed < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> *Seema Chishti, an Indian Express correspondent with a Muslim name, is >>> not necessarily enamored of either any religion in general and Islam in >>> particular. Belonging to Muslim community, she is awarded the job by >>> editors, to carry out their official policy ( a hatchet job?) on how to >>> report on Muslim affairs in India. The usual reporting is always colored by >>> Left Liberal disdain for religion and Islam. In her following report, she is >>> openly critical of the audacity of a 'Muslim' group to come forward with its >>> ideological baggage and still trying to fit into the pseudo-secular Indian >>> political arena, which is increasingly turning to be dominated by an >>> aggressive Hindutva Right that wants a Hindu Rashtra, denying any space for >>> others. By her reporting, she is directly helping the Hindutva to claim the >>> entire field for itself. The bogey of Islam is a very convenient instrument >>> for India's English media, to inject hate and derision for any Muslim >>> initiative to join the Indian mainstream, to ensure Brahmin monopoly on the >>> levers of power, that had kept the lopsided development of India, always >>> favoring the oligarchs and higher castes. >>> >>> Ghulam Muhammed, Mumbai >>> * >>> ----------------------- >>> >>> http://www.indianexpress.com/news/jamaat-tests-waters-to-launch-its-own-party/754013/0 >>> >>> *Thu, 24 Feb 2011 >>> >>> * <http://www.indianexpress.com/> >>> >>> >>> Jamaat tests waters to launch its own party[The Mumbai print edition has >>> the full name of Jamaat as ' Jamaate-Islami-e Hind' in the headline spread >>> out across the entire 7-column page report.GM] >>> >>> >>> *Seema Chishti <http://www.indianexpress.com/columnist/seemachishti/> ** >>> >>> Tags : percentage of Muslims, Jamaat-e-Islami-e Hind, Islam in the >>> subcontinent in 1941* >>> >>> *Posted: Thu Feb 24 2011, 00:17 hrs ** >>> >>> New Delhi: >>> >>> **In three of the five states going to the polls in weeks — Assam, >>> Kerala and West Bengal — the percentage of Muslims, after Jammu and Kashmir, >>> is the highest in the country. To tap this political space, the >>> Jamaat-e-Islami-e Hind, the organisation established for the propagation and >>> “reform” of Islam in the subcontinent in 1941, is planning to launch its >>> political party. * >>> >>> *Tentatively called the “Welfare Party,” it is learnt that senior Jamaat >>> members have been touring not just the poll-bound states but UP, Bihar and >>> Maharashtra, too, to test the waters. While discussions about the need for a >>> party have been on for two years, the formal launch is expected soon — some >>> say even as early as next month. * >>> >>> *A six-page note prepared by the Jamaat and accessed by The Indian >>> Express details the objectives and the remit of the proposed party. * >>> >>> *Jamaat, which already has a well-developed network of front >>> organizations like a women’s wing and a students’ wing, is anxious not to be >>> seen as a purely Muslim party but one which keeps the welfare of >>> marginalized groups besides Muslims, such as the poor, backwards and SC/STs >>> central to its proposed political face. * >>> >>> *The party’s concept paper makes scathing remarks about the state of >>> the polity, especially the unequal distribution of new wealth in the new >>> “happening” India. Underlining a social-democrat, religious and value-based >>> “formula,” it calls for a “paradigm shift.” The party envisages strong >>> participation by the middle-class and from individuals “having a record of >>> flawless public service”, committed to “ideals” and “values” and the ability >>> to break the connection “between political power and wealth creation.” * >>> >>> *Said a senior Jamaat member: “This won’t be Jamaat’s party but our >>> members would be fully with it. People feel left out from the way political >>> parties work these days. We want to keep welfare as the central element of >>> it. We believe in public funding, in the way Kanshi Ram set out asking for >>> one vote and one rupee, we can do that.” * >>> >>> *Members said that they will forge ties with “like-minded” parties and >>> although they aren’t prepared to take on established political forces this >>> time, they hope to make a statement by putting up a few candidates. * >>> >>> *There was a divide in the Jamaat over this political course of action >>> but the party’s Majlis-e-Shoora made a decisive push for it. When contacted, >>> Qasim Rasool Ilyas, a prominent member of the Jamaat-e-Islami, declined to >>> comment. * >>> >>> *The Jamaat-e-Islami claims to have at least 29,000 workers, and more >>> than 300,000 “well-wishers” across the country. But Jamaat watchers warn >>> about the group being at odds with its own ideology. They say that for a >>> group whose constitution states its objective as “iqaamat-e-din” or the >>> single-minded pursuit of religion, forming a political party may confuse >>> those who flock to the Jamaat as a centre for mainly Islamic revival or >>> refreshing the Islamic way of life. * >>> >>> *The Jamaat, split with its most influential founder, Maulana Maududi, >>> who was a staunch advocate of the creation of Pakistan, and later, a >>> Jamaat-e-Islami-e-Hind and a separate one for Jammu and Kashmir was set up. >>> * >>> >>> **However, its literature has had no real substitute for Maududi’s >>> philosophy and old stereotypes remain. The parallels drawn with the RSS have >>> often resulted in simultaneous bans, like in 1975, during the Emergency, >>> when both the RSS and the Jamaat were banned. * >>> >>> **Observers like Irfan Waheed say that political opponents, especially >>> the Hindutva parties, will invoke Jamaat-e-Islami’s past and present in >>> Bangladesh and Pakistan. “After the partition, when Maulana Maududi was >>> asked about the fate of the Muslims left in a Hindu majority India, he had >>> said that he did not bother if the Hindus treat the Muslims of India worse >>> than malechhas. He was only bothered about making Pakistan an Islamic state >>> at any cost,” said Waheed.* >>> >>> *** The last two paras were dropped from the print edition report. >>> >>> * >>> * >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "humanrights movement" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "humanrights movement" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "humanrights movement" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "humanrights movement" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/humanrights-movement?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "humanrights movement" group. 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