Dear Veena I am glad that we agree on most things as to why lok pal is not enough.
I myself was in favour of government formed shgs (see the public hearing on vellore document that i criculated earlier and my earlier articles before i took to activism)- but looking at manifestos of dominant political parites i just feel they are using it for vote banks. you should see how much money they are suddenly pumping in before elections. Poor women need credit, why cannot they get it without collateral from bank at lower interest? also one article was citing how shgs were quelling spaces for dissent. why not scale up mahila samakhya throughout the country which function under society. Are they also used as vote banks. some clarity required. I have cc to people who know this program without permission, i hope you all do not mind Ranjani --- On Mon, 11/4/11, Veena Poonacha <[email protected]> wrote: From: Veena Poonacha <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [feministsindia] looking beyond the holy cow To: [email protected], [email protected], "dalit movement" <[email protected]>, "PMI" <[email protected]>, "zest caste" <[email protected]> Cc: "Kalyani Menon-Sen" <[email protected]> Date: Monday, 11 April, 2011, 8:57 AM The Lokpal bill is only the begining of real change. The more important work is to throw out the capitalism in all its guise and to holistic development based on equity and people's participation.Land reforms should go along with SHGs. Corruption and black money should be weeded out. Dr Veena R Poonacha Director, Research Center for Women's Studies & Hon. Director, Center for Rural Development Project Director, AWA SNDT Women's University Sir Vithaldas Vidyaviha, Juhu Campus, Juhu Road Mumbai 400049 Tele: +91 22 26604001 --- On Sat, 9/4/11, ranjani k.murthy <[email protected]> wrote: From: ranjani k.murthy <[email protected]> Subject: [feministsindia] looking beyond the holy cow To: [email protected], "feminists" <[email protected]>, "dalit movement" <[email protected]>, "PMI" <[email protected]>, "zest caste" <[email protected]> Cc: "Kalyani Menon-Sen" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 9 April, 2011, 17:53 Dear All Why did elite and middle class come enmass in support of the Lok pal bill- becuase it does not hit their belly or belt. Lok pall act while necessary is not enough, it does not question the neo liberal paradigm of development, nor the material and cultural basis due to which corruption is not questioned, which includes: - sops to quelch dissent, government formed shgs (I have revised my position), -.MNREGS unaccompanied by land reforms or sustainable agriculture growth - no committment to take back land or common property resouruce already given to SEZs and corporate control - no floor prices for dry land crops - ragi millets... , - capital intensive growth rather than labur intensive one - total blaseness to caste, class, religion, ethnic and patirarchal divisions - silence on genocide of girls - population control without addressing son preference, and making a racket out of sex selection technologies. - silence on subtel apartheid in society - slum dwellers evicted, dalit living in separate colonies, mulsims living separately--- how can we have euqity when people have different access to health, education, child care, water and sanitation i think we need to revisit development, paradigms from ambedkar, andre gunder frank, paulo friere lens, Phule, Periyar etc and not just Gandhian values . for can we have accountability of government without wto, wb , mnc accountability? which sections of civil society were consulted, where were the dalits, adviasis, slum dwellers, poor women? we need right to participation bill - wherein any new bill is put in all language newspaper not just hindi and english and where non literacy is high consultations are held with them directly. they may air a few inequitable views, but they are also wise in anguish Ranjani Kamala Murthy- in the month of ambedkar i dedicate this letter to ambedkar --- On Sat, 9/4/11, Niloufer Bhagwat <[email protected]> wrote: From: Niloufer Bhagwat <[email protected]> Subject: [humanrights-movement:4064] LOKPAL/JAN LOKPAL PROPOSED BILL To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 9 April, 2011, 5:28 PM Forwarding an insight into causes of corruption at the highest level across national jurisdictions including in India with several political parties involved in joint conspiracies with the heads of private companies , builders , contractors , commercial concerns among others . It follows that unless the Lokpal Bill / Jan Lokpal Bill has provisions relating to prosecution of heads of private companies , directors, officials and lobbyists including builders, contractors and trading and commercial concerns who are jointly liable with Ministers and Officials and therefore jointly liable in conspiracies to defraud the public exchequer, neither of these proposals meets with the requirements of the present situation in India and other countries where Corporate houses including Transnational Companies ,Banking and Financial Institutions , Real Estate and trading Companies are directly responsible in the corruption chain and must be jointly investigated and prosecuted before fast track courts constituted to prosecute the corrupt. Anna Hazare's movement does not focus on this aspect at all as some funded NGOs desire to conceal the real source of corruption as they themselves are recipient of financial largesse from Transnational Companies or from Trusts and Foundations created by these Companies . Stiglitz has also written on the dangers of this Corporate Corruption on the Planet . Kindly down load the attached article on ' Japan's Nuclear Meltdown , and the Gulf Meltdown( BP) All Happened for the Same Reason " from globalresearch website in case you are not able to open it as it deals with Corporation corruption responsible for serious decision making which has affected citizens across national boundaries .Also download the article by Stiglitz on Information Clearing House on " Gambling With the Planet" as it refers tothe nature of corrupt decisions being taken in conspiracy with Corporate Houses and lobbyists and their political representatives . Unless there is a focus on the source of corruption a movement may conceal rather than reveal the systemic reason for the administrative and political collapse on the corruption front . Niloufer Bhagwat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "humanrights movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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