Simon's advice is good -- I second everything he said. 
 
Buying hurdy-gurdies is typically slow and expensive, as we all know  on 
this list. I'm not sure what currency units we're talking about here (US  
dollars? UK pounds? Euros?) but a nice luteback is roughly a $6000  (USD) 
instrument new, and often not much less used. Also, turnaround time  from a 
custom 
luthier is often around two years, more often than not you have to  get 
them from Europe, and good used instruments are hard to come by. 
 
I should point out, though, that at least two good makers build a cheaper  
"production" model that is much less money, much faster to get, and serves  
nicely for a beginning to intermediate player for a long time. These are 
Olympic  Musical Instruments' "Chinook" and "Orca", and Helmut Gotschy's 
"Phoenix  Standard". I play a Phoenix, it cost me about $2200 new, I had it a 
month after  I ordered it, and it's served me well for four years. It's easy to 
adjust, it's  very durable, plays coups fairly crisply, and has a nice full 
sound when I've  got enough rosin on the wheel, even when playing for a 
dance or in a loud  session. It's also very plain looking, doesn't quite have 
the rich tone of a  French luteback, and doesn't get oohs and ahs. Would I 
rather have a French  luteback? Sure! Anyone want to give me one? Am I 
otherwise satisfied with my  little "plain jane?" Very much so.
 
Maybe Alden can give an update as to typical turnaround times these days  
for a Chinook. 
 
Helmut's shop is in Germany (now run by his assistant Alexandra) so you  
have to pay shipping from Germany if you're not meeting up at a festival. The  
website is _www.gotschy.com_ (http://www.gotschy.com) . Olympic  
Instruments, as we all hopefully know, is _www.hurdygurdy.com_ 
(http://www.hurdygurdy.com) , and somewhat more local  for us North Americanos. 
 
Happy shopping!
 
Mitch Gordon
Guerneville, CA, US
 
 
[email protected] writes:

Hello,

sorry to say it, but 2k - 25k is a normal price for a  hurdy-gurdy.
Stop comparing it with idustrial made guitars and start  comparing it  
to other handcrafted instruments (violins, cellos, da  gambas...) and  
you will see its rather cheap (count all the parts  that need to be  
made, and you will see its a bargain).
Its better  to go on saving for a while than spending 1k for something   
useless.
With something like 1.7k  at hand you might be able to  find a  
reasonable second hand offer.
Ask the hurdy-gurdy makers  for second hand instruments, as they  
sometimes know about  instruments that a customer wants to sell when  
buying a new one (and  they will tell you because it helps the customer  
who is giving them  even more money ;-). Sometimes gurdies get offered  
on this list. If  you find offers at places like ebay, be cautious and  
better ask the  community on this list about it, even if this bears the  
risk to wake  up other possible buyers. The risk to buy a flowerpot in  
hurdy-gurdy  design via online shopping is  serious.

S.

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