Barbara, On page 16 of our Method is a photo of Gaston Rivière using a traditional strap. This passes beneath the tail piece and thence to the knob. It has a simple hole and cut at each end like any other strap and I find it is very stable when combined with the waist strap in the traditional manner. The peg box is held lower than the tailpiece so that it is easier to move up and down the keyboard, although the angle is a matter of choice. Examples are given on pages 2, 6 and 7. MP _____
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 18 October 2011 08:38 To: Digest Recipients Subject: [HG-new] Digest for [email protected] - 9 Messages in 3 Topics Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/topics * Locking, leather HG strap suggestions? <> [7 Updates] * Affordable Hurdy Gurdy Construction <> [1 Update] * Digest for [email protected] - 1 Message <> in 1 Topic strap [1 Update] Topic: Locking, leather HG strap suggestions? <http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/84df3e0bd93d7e03> "Andy Carter" <[email protected]> Oct 17 08:46AM +0100 ^ <> Hi Norm, I use these (as supplied by Neil Brook with his instruments) http://www.amazon.com/Jim-Dunlop-7007SI-Ergo-Strap/dp/B0006ZXFWO/ref=sr_1_6? ie=UTF8 <http://www.amazon.com/Jim-Dunlop-7007SI-Ergo-Strap/dp/B0006ZXFWO/ref=sr_1_6 ?ie=UTF8&qid=1318837488&sr=8-6> &qid=1318837488&sr=8-6 . They should work on just about any strap as long as the strap is not too thick. Only heart-stopping moment I've had was when the plastic part of a strap failed - the locks have never let me down! Cheers Andy -----Original Message----- From: Norm Sohl Sent: 17 October 2011 04:41 To: hurdygurdy Subject: [HG-new] Locking, leather HG strap suggestions? I've just purchased an instrument (that one Mike Saunders was talking about a month or so ago), and am getting equipped for regular playing. I've had instruments fall before, and am looking for recommendations for locking straps that work well for HG. I've noticed pictures of some nice (custom?) leather straps that go well with historically styled instruments, and would be interested in suggestions for them too. I'll probably be getting two, so that I can play standing up. Any thoughts? I've seen the straps from lock-it, which are OK but expensive. Any better ideas? Thanks in advance, --Norm Sohl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. gurdymaker <[email protected]> Oct 17 03:28AM -0700 ^ <> Hi Norm If the strap is too thick, you can tie the lokstrap to the strap end and just use the lokstrap on the button . The only issue is the diameter of the strap button - it needs to be no bigger than 13.3mm. and the inner diam no more than 9.5mm . You can file out the lokstrap by a few mm. for a bigger button . Quality leather straps need to be custom made by a saddler and are understandably quite expensive. Mine was £45 but you only buy them once ( weight gain permitting ! ) Cheers Neil Barbara Currier <[email protected]> Oct 17 08:10AM -0700 ^ <> So, Neil, what are the qualities of a good strap, if you need to have one made by a saddler? For my main strap, I use this one: http://www.onoriintl.com/products/pages/S5_90_jpg.htm (adjustable in hope of weight loss; Mamselle's is red and Bassot's is sand) with the button hole carved out a wee bit more. I am happy enough with it. However, I am having problems finding a second one for standing. At the moment, I am using a scarf with cord loops tied into the ends, pretty, but not tested enough to know if it is really secure, so I haven't left my living room with that set-up and always have one hand holding the instrument (which I will continue to do while wearing it, no matter what the strap). Also, I am curious (anyone who may have an opinion) about the best way to hold the instrument standing up. I see videos of people playing with the crank quite high and the head very low and have seen others with the instrument hanging very low and the crank maybe 10-20 degrees up. Thanks, Barbara Graham Whyte <[email protected]> Oct 17 05:55PM +0100 ^ <> Barbara, I play all the time standing up I have custom leather straps made by a saddler Graham strap 1 strap 2 strap 3 On 17/10/11 16:10, Barbara Currier wrote: So, Neil, what are the qualities of a good strap, if you need to have one made by a saddler? For my main strap, I use this one: http://www.onoriintl.com/products/pages/S5_90_jpg.htm (adjustable in hope of weight loss; Mamselle's is red and Bassot's is sand) with the button hole carved out a wee bit more. I am happy enough with it. However, I am having problems finding a second one for standing. At the moment, I am using a scarf with cord loops tied into the ends, pretty, but not tested enough to know if it is really secure, so I haven't left my living room with that set-up and always have one hand holding the instrument (which I will continue to do while wearing it, no matter what the strap). Also, I am curious (anyone who may have an opinion) about the best way to hold the instrument standing up. I see videos of people playing with the crank quite high and the head very low and have seen others with the instrument hanging very low and the crank maybe 10-20 degrees up. Thanks, Barbara On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:28 AM, gurdymaker <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Norm If the strap is too thick, you can tie the lokstrap to the strap end and just use the lokstrap on the button . The only issue is the diameter of the strap button - it needs to be no bigger than 13.3mm. and the inner diam no more than 9.5mm . You can file out the lokstrap by a few mm. for a bigger button . Quality leather straps need to be custom made by a saddler and are understandably quite expensive. Mine was £45 but you only buy them once ( weight gain permitting ! ) Cheers Neil > For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy > The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found athttp://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new > subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. Barbara Currier <[email protected]> Oct 17 10:21AM -0700 ^ <> Thank you for the pictures, Graham. I remember your straps and look for something like them here all the time, but never find them. I've been through farm and ranch stores digging through leather jungles. Is there a name for the kind of leather? I remember them being quite supple. Barbara Simon Wascher <[email protected]> Oct 17 08:15PM +0200 ^ <> Hello, in my experience for that kind of straps it is the best starting point to buy ordinary leather belts, cut them in two, punching the holes (with the help of a gouge for example) according to the plan and resemble them by glueing and then hand sewing. The straplocks are a nice add on to have. S. Am 17.10.2011 um 19:21 schrieb Barbara Currier: Barbara Currier <[email protected]> Oct 17 09:26PM -0700 ^ <> Norm, I hope you got the information you needed. I didd. I'm in contact with a saddler in my town. Fortunately, I live in pretty serious horse country. I sent Graham's pictures and got an estimate of $70, with a misunderstanding of a harness setup rather than two separate straps, so maybe a little less. I'll probably get a stand-up strap alone, first, as my Onori guitar strap is pretty good and I special-ordered the red one for Mamselle, as she has a lovely red cochineal, ebony and nacre theme going on. Barbara Topic: Affordable Hurdy Gurdy Construction <http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/79bfa931dac4f3aa> maesoph <[email protected]> Oct 17 05:40PM -0700 ^ <> Dear All: Per your advice, I have contacted Hurdy Gurdy Crafters and am quite pleased with the responses from Mel and Ann there. However, I don't think I can tackle a Hurdy Gurdy from scratch and can't really afford the kit. Is there any middle ground out there somewhere? I need to make an HG that ultimately can be sold, so quality has to be there, but I can't shell out $900 for a complete kit and only sell the HG for $1200 or so (just guessing, but it's unlikely I would get more unless I was a Pro at this). Any chance of getting material cost down to $500 or less?????? Any ideas would be appreciated - maybe I should take this straight to Mel and Ann though??? Mike Topic: Digest for [email protected] - 1 Message in 1 Topic <http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/8b84dac04c7829cf> strap "michael" <[email protected]> Oct 17 05:34PM +0100 ^ <> Drawings for a standard leather strap are shown on page 16 of the Hurdy-gurdy Method by D & M Muskett. Measure your girth and take your instrument and drawing to a saddle maker or other leather worker. The leather will be hard and firm when new but you may soften it with a little neat's-foot oil. If, after many years, the leather becomes too soft you can put a stitch across the slot. MP From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 17 October 2011 08:19 To: Digest Recipients Subject: [HG-new] Digest for [email protected] - 1 Message in 1 Topic Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/topics * Locking, leather HG strap suggestions? <> [1 Update] Topic: Locking, leather HG strap suggestions? <http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy/t/84df3e0bd93d7e03> Norm Sohl <[email protected]> Oct 16 08:41PM -0700 ^ <> I've just purchased an instrument (that one Mike Saunders was talking about a month or so ago), and am getting equipped for regular playing. I've had instruments fall before, and am looking for recommendations for locking straps that work well for HG. I've noticed pictures of some nice (custom?) leather straps that go well with historically styled instruments, and would be interested in suggestions for them too. I'll probably be getting two, so that I can play standing up. Any thoughts? I've seen the straps from lock-it, which are OK but expensive. Any better ideas? Thanks in advance, --Norm Sohl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster.
