Sorry, but I do not see the same instrument. Are we looking at the same picture?
the peghead on the picture is not shown at all (nor is any blue ribbon) - it is obscured by a book, by a lute and many other objects. And can you really call that shape "guitar shaped"? Yes, it is a flat backed instrument, but I have never seen any guitar with that three-lobed shape we see near the crank (I've seen gurdies in that shape before, but none were described as "guitar shape", but "Renaissance" or something of the sort) On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Alden F M Hackmann < [email protected]> wrote: > > > I thought so at first. It's tempting to attribute the instrument in the > painting to one of the Mirecourt builders, but I think it is not: > > - the body appears to be guitar-shaped with the upper bout being flat > along the head block, while the Mirecourt builders (Bassot, the Colsons, > and the Thouvenels) built their guitar-shaped instruments with an extra > inward curve that brought the upper bout to almost a right angle with the > head block. > > - the peghead sides and end appear to extend down below the level of the > soundboard, which the Mirecourt builders never did. This style was more > common for builders of luteback instruments. > > All of this is assuming that the painter was working from an actual > instrument (the level of detail suggests that he was) and that he rendered > the instrument accurately with no artistic license. > > Oh, to be able to strip off that blue ribbon and see the joint between > peghead and keybox! That would tell us for certain. > > Alden F.M. Hackmann [email protected] > > "Beati illi qui in circulum circumeunt, fient enim magnae rotae." > > > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Barbara Currier wrote: > > Wow, that looks so much like my Bassot in profile, face, ivory strap pin, >> drone string holders (what do you call those?), crank handle and all. >> >> Barbara >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Michael McMillan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Augusto-- >> >> I did a 'Bing' Image search using "hurdy gurdy still life," and the >> Christie's links were right at the front. Google shows it first, too, >> but not the Christie's links. >> >> "Title : A vanitas still life with a globe, jewels, books, musical >> instruments - including a bagpipe, a hurdy gurdy, a lute, a violin, a >> recorder and a shawn - and a print with a self-portrait of the artist" >> >> ...So, now we know that the hurdy-gurdy is one of the vanities of life! >> >> Here's another nice hurdy-gurdy still life: >> http://stilllifequickheart.**tumblr.com/post/2386816369/** >> henri-horace-roland-delaporte-**still-life-with<http://stilllifequickheart.tumblr.com/post/2386816369/henri-horace-roland-delaporte-still-life-with> >> >> --Michael >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Augusto de Ornellas Abreu < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> Just out of curiosity... How did you find that info so fast? Do you >> have access to some kind of "visual google" tool? >> Augusto >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Michael McMillan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Bonjour Michel, >> >> Edwaert Collier, 1662, 65½ x 53¾ in. (166.3 x 136.5 cm.) >> >> Here are two links from Christie's about it: >> http://www.christies.com/**LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?** >> intObjectID=1694487<http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=1694487> >> sale 25 May 1999 >> http://www.christies.com/**LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?** >> intObjectID=4838176<http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=4838176> >> sale 7 December 2006 >> >> Nice painting! Thank you for making us aware of it. >> >> Cordialement, >> Michael McMillan >> >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Michel LEMEU <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Il y a une vielle sur cette peinture que je découvre avec surprise >> pour la première fois >> Quelqu'un connait cette peinture ? Le peintre ? Quelle période ? >> Dans quel Musée ou collection privée est-elle ? >> >> Merci pour vos renseignements... >> >> >> I see a Hurdy-Gurdy on this painting. >> Who knows this painting ? The painter ? Period ? 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