Hello Andrew, Much later than I promissed, but now, here is a link to a set of pictures of hurdy gurdies before 1650: www.mijnalbum.nl/Album=DLOPTEIY The link is only temporary, after some weeks it will be deleted. Apart from some pictures that I took from internet, it contains several 5MB photos made by me (essentially 9 objects plus a copy from a book), and these are for privat use. Publication is not allowed unless the owner of the painting, print or sculpture (see title) grants permission for publication, (You don't need my personal permission.)
One of the photographs is from a print by Pieter van der Heyden, which refers to a print of Jeroen Bosch, you will know probably: see http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Jheronimus_Bosch/Copies_and_paraphrases http://kunstgeschichte.univie.ac.at/fileadmin/user_upload/inst_kunstgeschichte/Texte/Bosch_s_Cripples_and_Drawings_by_His_Imitators.pdf I have seen an original but, alas, I have no photograph of it. I hope that this will help and i am very interested in your results. Personally, I have some questions that interest me: - I suppose that the origin of the hurdy gurdy was an instrument that supplied a variable set of drones (playing all 2 or 3 strings together with fifth/octave distance). I think that, apart from the organistrum, also smaller hurdy gurdies might have been of this type. Is there any evidence how long this type has lived? Anyhow, I think that an instrument with 4 (or more) strings is of the melody plus drone type: four parallel strings are not very useful and would have a very broad tangentbox because of the necessary distance between the strings. And, obviously, the keyless hurdy gurdies must have been of the melody plus drone type (see also one of my pictures). This question might be enigmatic forever. - From the pictures I have seen, I got an impression that, in late medieval and early renaissance, there might have been two general types of hurdy gurdies: one with a rather smal body for religious and more serious music (especially for accompanying singing?) and one with a large body for folk/dance music (functioning as a parallel of the bagpipe). Both in several shapes. Is this just an impression, or might it be true or is it false? I wish you good luck with your research, and you might see (part of) an answer to these questions. Ernic Kamerich Op zondag 17 februari 2013 09:38:41 UTC+1 schreef Andrew Orrison het volgende: > > I will be working on a research paper about the Hrudy gurdy and was > wondering if you all know of locations of the hurdy gurdy in art besides > the following pieces. > > c.1100 (11th century?) Wolfenbiittel Gud. lat. 334 (Augsburg) > measurement treatise > 1149-1154 Visio Tnugdali (Regensburg) > c.1160 Paris, Notre Dame > c.1170 Boscherville > c.1170 (late 12th century) Soria > c.1173 York Psalter > c.1175-I205 Hortus Deliciarum > c.1188 St. Iago de Compostella (Cathedral) > late 12th century St. Louis Psalter (York) > late 12th century Riotiron > late 12th century Moradillo de Sedano > late 12th century Toro > late 12th century Estella > late 12th century St. Iago de Compostella (Bishop's palace) > 12th century Honnecourt-sur-l'Escaut > 12th century Luttrell Psalter > > There is also of course the Bosch piece as well. > > Thanks for your assistance! > > --Andrew Orrison > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hurdygurdy The rules of posting, courtesy, and other list information may be found at http://hurdygurdy.com/mailinglist/index.htm. To reduce spam, posts from new subscribers are held pending approval by the webmaster. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hurdygurdy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
