Hi Steve, i've finally tested your additions and most of it worked like a charm. I had to update some library version and did some smaller changes to the cross_compile script, but most of it worked well. At the moment i have not tried yet to build hydrogen with LADSPA support. But i'm really glad that we can now release a 0.9.7-beta1 installer for hydrogen. Very nice work!
Best regards, Sebastian On 2015-08-10 15:27, Steve Boyer wrote: > Hey, > > So the current status is that my last cross compile was successful. I > was just waiting for Sebastien to review the last batch of changes > before they were pulled in. > > It will still only compile 32bit though, someone was having a look to > see about making some changes to the source to allow it to compile > 64bit (there was a problem with the ints not being int ints if I > recall, which made the compile fail due to incorrect type being set). > > Steve > On Aug 10, 2015 4:51 AM, "Thijs van severen" > <thijsvanseve...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> i'm going trough all the open github tickets and some of theme are >> windows related (or have to do with the fact that the last windows >> version is outdated) >> my guess is that most windows tickets will be closed as soon as we >> have an up to date version (so all eyes are on you ;-) >> >> can you share the current status with us ? >> >> thanks for all the hard work on this !! >> >> grtz >> Thijs >> >> 2015-06-18 2:34 GMT+02:00 Steve Boyer <boyer.st...@gmail.com>: >> >> Yeah definitely interesting, I noticed the portaudio header in the >> jack source when I initially ran into the problems getting hydrogen >> to compile with jack support, which is why I was able to track it >> down so fast (I was looking to see if there was an easy way not >> using code blocks to compile it to get the dll and headers so we >> wouldn't have to copy them from Windows). Removal of the portaudio >> stuff might be able to be proposed upstream. >> >> I'll try the force remake of portaudio here in the morning. But I >> reckon that it should work. I can build the recompile of portaudio >> into my script if it doesn't get a different fix soon. >> >> Steve >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015, 20:07 Harry Nakos <xna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Really, really, really interesting... Indeed. From mxe/log/jack I >> see: >> >> + install >> > /home/xnakos/Projects/mxe/usr/i686-w64-mingw32.shared/lib/libportaudio.dll.a >> (from build/windows/libportaudio.dll.a) >> >> To work around this (do not still know the implications), I went to >> mxe/src/portaudio.mk [1] and added this (random dependency to force >> re-make, I am not aware of a way to force re-make a package other >> than adding a dependency or in general changing the MK file >> (maybe)): >> >> $(PKG)_DEPS := gcc jack >> >> in order to be able to make portaudio again. After that compilation >> of hydrogen is successful. You can try it and tell me what happens. >> It is not more than 24 hours ago that my jack commits were pulled >> into mxe. I now saw that jack2 contains an ancient header file of >> portaudio for windows... I guess I will look into that. >> >> Harry >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Steve Boyer <boyer.st...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hey Harry, >> >> So I spent most of this morning building a fresh mxe to test in, and >> here are the results: Hydrogen fails to build, hitting an error on >> libhydrogen-core-0.9.7 on portaudio stuff. >> I believe that this is due to jack patching some of the portaudio >> files. Here's details for the error. >> >> sboyer@pc16:/home/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source$ make >> Linking CXX shared library libhydrogen-core-0.9.7.dll >> > CMakeFiles/hydrogen-core-0.9.7.dir/objects.a(portaudio_driver.cpp.obj): >> In function `ZN6H2Core15PortAudioDriver10disconnectEv': >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:107: >> undefined reference to `Pa_StopStream' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:114: >> undefined reference to `Pa_CloseStream' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:121: >> undefined reference to `Pa_Terminate' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:111: >> undefined reference to `Pa_GetErrorText' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:118: >> undefined reference to `Pa_GetErrorText' >> > CMakeFiles/hydrogen-core-0.9.7.dir/objects.a(portaudio_driver.cpp.obj): >> In function `ZN6H2Core15PortAudioDriver7connectEv': >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:71: >> undefined reference to `Pa_Initialize' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:75: >> undefined reference to `Pa_GetErrorText' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:87: >> undefined reference to `Pa_OpenDefaultStream' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:91: >> undefined reference to `Pa_GetErrorText' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:95: >> undefined reference to `Pa_StartStream' >> > /home/local/NBIB/sboyer/build/hydrogen/source/src/core/src/IO/portaudio_driver.cpp:99: >> undefined reference to `Pa_GetErrorText' >> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status >> src/core/CMakeFiles/hydrogen-core-0.9.7.dir/build.make:1422: recipe >> for target 'src/core/libhydrogen-core-0.9.7.dll' failed >> make[2]: *** [src/core/libhydrogen-core-0.9.7.dll] Error 1 >> CMakeFiles/Makefile2:137: recipe for target >> 'src/core/CMakeFiles/hydrogen-core-0.9.7.dir/all' failed >> make[1]: *** [src/core/CMakeFiles/hydrogen-core-0.9.7.dir/all] Error >> 2 >> Makefile:137: recipe for target 'all' failed >> make: *** [all] Error 2 >> >> sboyer@pc16:/opt/mxe/usr$ diff -r i686-w64-mingw32.shared/ >> /opt/mxe.hydrogen/usr/i686-w64-mingw32.shared/ | grep portaudio >> Binary files i686-w64-mingw32.shared/bin/libportaudio-2.dll and >> /opt/mxe.hydrogen/usr/i686-w64-mingw32.shared/bin/libportaudio-2.dll >> differ >> Binary files i686-w64-mingw32.shared/bin/test-portaudio.exe and >> /opt/mxe.hydrogen/usr/i686-w64-mingw32.shared/bin/test-portaudio.exe >> differ >> Binary files i686-w64-mingw32.shared/lib/libportaudio.dll.a and >> /opt/mxe.hydrogen/usr/i686-w64-mingw32.shared/lib/libportaudio.dll.a >> differ >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 8:18 AM Steve Boyer <boyer.st...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hey Harry, >> That would simplify things greatly. >> I will give it a go shortly, and report back. Thanks for the heads >> up. >> >> Steve >> On Jun 17, 2015 7:36 AM, "Harry Nakos" <xna...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Steve, hi! >> >> MXE is now capable of making jack! I hope at least! Could you try it >> by adding jack to the make list and removing manual inclusion of >> header files from the script? It will simplify some things I hope. >> >> Harry >> >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Steve Boyer <boyer.st...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hey Sebastian, >> >> I have pushed my new version of the script up. The major changes in >> it are as follows: >> cross_compile.sh - now only builds hydrogen and gets the required >> files for a Windows release (includes the jack installer, and the >> Windows installer for ladspa plugins). >> mxe_installer.sh - I went through the mxe requirements page and did >> up a quick script to hopefully install mxe on any of the listed >> systems (OS X included). I only have a Debian system to test this >> on, so I can't confirm that the script will work well on any other >> systems (anyone want to test?). I also added references to the >> requirements page and the tutorial page inside the script to point >> people to where they should look if anything goes wrong. >> The MXE check now checks for the cmake toolchain file used by mxe to >> determine if mxe is installed, both in the mxe_installer.sh and >> cross_compile.sh scripts. If you can think of a better way to check >> for mxe's existence then I'd be happy implementing that. >> >> Steve >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:13 PM <mau...@smoors.de> wrote: >> Hi Harry, hi Steve! >> >> On 2015-06-11 18:32, Harry Nakos wrote: >>> Hi, guys! >>> >>> Sebastian, there is already a link in the Readme.md for compiling >> the >>> cross-compiler on other Unix systems, which in turn links to >>> http://mxe.cc/#requirements-macos [2] [7], which is probably what >> you >>> need. Can you try to follow this guide and see if there are >> packages >>> missing afterwards? >> >> That looks quite helpful! I will see if i can get sth. working >> after >> Steve has pushed the next version of his script. But i think will >> give >> testing on linux definitely the priority. In my opionion it is >> better to >> concentrate on one platform first :) >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Sebastian >> >>> Steve, great job once again! I haven't had to time to try it yet. >> A >>> few observations/questions. Why are libfftw3-dev and >> libportaudio-dev >>> in mxe's requirements? Are these needed at all for the >>> cross-compilation? If there are extra requirements for some >> reason >>> (what am I missing?), I believe they should be listed separately >> (from >>> the mxe requirements). On another topic, I believe that the path >> to >>> mxe should not be taken for granted or hardcoded. /opt requires >> root >>> privileges to be written for one. The script could require an >>> environment variable to be set, one that would have the path to >> mxe >>> assigned to it. Or the script could take the path to mxe as an >>> argument. I believe the environment variable before invoking the >>> script would be a better option (simpler) though. About the >> 64-bit >>> version, what problem do you face? Make sure that all packages >>> required are available for 64-bit by mxe. >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Steve Boyer >> <boyer.st...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Sebastian, >>>> >>>> I was actually going to remove my pull and submit a new one. >> I've >>>> changed how the system packages the installer (using CPack now >>>> instead of straight NSIS. I'll have to update the documentation >> to >>>> reflect the changes for non Debian systems (if you'd like to >> tell me >>>> the required packages on Mac I'd be more then happy to add Mac >>>> support to the cross building (unfortunately I don't have a Mac >> to >>>> test on, and am unfamiliar with the packaging system). >>>> >>>> All my checks are pretty loose so I should definitely tighten up >> and >>>> test those a little better. The specific mxe problem you listed >> has >>>> sort of been fixed since I discovered during testing that if you >>>> compile mxe in your build dir, you need to do an awful lot to >> get it >>>> to work once moved to /opt. So now it builds in and checks >> against >>>> /opt/mxe. I'll tighten up the checks for some of the >> requirements of >>>> mxe before setting it as installed in my new version. >>>> >>>> With the cleanup I did for the experimental 64bit windows >> version, I >>>> obsoleted some of the code in the script file, and was thinking >>>> about building an mxe installer as a separate item. >> Unfortunately I >>>> haven't gotten the 64bit version to compile just yet but it's a >> work >>>> in progress. >>>> >>>> My readme file has become a little outdated but I plan on >> updating >>>> it with the proper manual steps. As well as a brief description >> of >>>> the options in the script. I will need to do this because the >> build >>>> structure has changed since CPack wanted to include everything >> in >>>> the package, and wasn't moving the exe and dll files to the >> proper >>>> locations, and when I'd move the source tree into a sub >> directory >>>> using CPack everything would break. >>>> >>>> The new structure is build/hydrogen git clone hydrogen then >> rename >>>> hydrogen to source and build in the project dir. With this >> change >>>> though I was required to do some linking as CPack was >> complaining >>>> about absolute paths. >>>> >>>> Hopefully I'll have a better version of everything by next week >>>> sometime. In the meantime if you want to email me some of the >> Mac >>>> specific stuff I can build it into the script so you hopefully >> won't >>>> run into issues with the cross compile next time. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2015 5:45 PM, <mau...@smoors.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Steve! >>>>> >>>>> That sounds awesome! I've started to try your scripts before >>>>> merging >>>>> them and run into the following issues: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Maybe you should note some general prerequisite in readme.md >> [3] >>>>> [1]. Sth. >>>>> like "this works only on debian-based linux systems". Keep in >>>>> mind that >>>>> there are also people with OS X out there (eh,like me..) that >> may >>>>> think >>>>> they could cross-compile for windows :) >>>>> >>>>> 2. It would be great if you coud list the mxe requirements >>>>> somewhere or >>>>> see to it that your scripts install everything. In my case, the >>>>> packages >>>>> autopoint, bison, flex and gperf were missing. Related problem: >>>>> After >>>>> /opt/mxe is created, your script seems to think that mxe is >>>>> installed, >>>>> even if it failed to install. It only checks the directory >>>>> structure.. >>>>> In addition, it uses "mv" to place the directory structure in >>>>> /opt. If >>>>> you run the script again, the original source in the build dir >> is >>>>> not >>>>> found (because it got moved). Maybe "cp -r" would be better >>>>> suited >>>>> here.. >>>>> >>>>> This is were i stopped today, maybe i can give it a new try at >>>>> the >>>>> weekend! >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Sebastian >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-05-27 21:47, Steve Boyer wrote: >>>>>> I have an update from the Windows front. I was able to >>>>> cross-compile >>>>>> Hydrogen with jack support today, which brings the supported >>>>> drivers >>>>>> up to Jack and Portaudio (which I think is all Windows can >>>>> use). >>>>>> >>>>>> My setup is a Debian system using mxe to cross-compile for >>>>> Windows, >>>>>> and a Windows 7 system for testing. I've got most of my >>>>> documentation >>>>>> up to date in the README.md file in my fork, but my auto build >>>>> script >>>>>> has become rather outdated and I am going to expand upon it >>>>> anyway to >>>>>> allow you to have a permanent build environment set up instead >>>>> of the >>>>>> temporary one it makes currently, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> The wiki outlines steps to compile hydrogen on Windows for >>>>> Windows, >>>>>> which I haven't tried yet but shouldn't be much different >> since >>>>> they >>>>>> both use mingw as the compiler. Once I get my script updated I >>>>> will >>>>>> start to tackle that. I may just move on to packaging with >> NSIS >>>>> though >>>>>> then come back to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> As it stands you might be able to update the wiki to add the >> up >>>>> to >>>>>> date cross compile instructions from the README.md file here: >>>>>> >>>>> >> https://github.com/mikotoiii/hydrogen/blob/master/win32/README.md >> [4] >>>>> [2] [5] >>>>>> >>>>>> - Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Thijs van severen >>>>>> <thijsvanseve...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Steve and welcome to the team ! >>>>>>> (sorry for the late reply :-S ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i assume that you already found your way to the wiki, and >> more >>>>>>> specifically the pages that describe the >> compilation/packaging >>>>> for >>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > (https://github.com/hydrogen-music/hydrogen/wiki/Packaging-for-Windows >> [5] >>>>> [3] >>>>>>> [3]) >>>>>>> I'm pretty sure that the wiki is not up to date, so if you >>>>> find >>>>>>> anything that needs to be changed just let me know via this >> ML >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A lot of people will be grateful if you can find a way to >>>>> speed up >>>>>>> and simplify the compilation for windows, so good luck ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Grtz >>>>>>> Thijs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-05-22 16:20 GMT+02:00 Steve Boyer >>>>> <boyer.st...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First I will introduce myself. My name is Steve aka >>>>> mikotoiii, and >>>>>>>> I've been using Hydrogen with my band for a little while >> now. >>>>> What >>>>>>>> sparked me to join and try to contribute was the progression >>>>> in >>>>>>>> Linux, but not in Windows. I am a sysadmin by trade, which >>>>> means >>>>>>>> that I compile and test software on a number of different >>>>> systems >>>>>>>> and platforms routinely. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I should also state that I am not a programmer, though I do >>>>> know >>>>>>>> enough to get by to make small fixes to allow something to >>>>>>>> compile. I do have a lot of exposure to Linux, both from my >>>>> job >>>>>>>> and from my personal enthusiasm for it, and I am decent at >>>>>>>> scripting in it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I would like to work on, and have been in my personal >>>>> fork so >>>>>>>> far is fixing up the compiling scripts and documentation for >>>>> the >>>>>>>> cross compiling of the Windows version (I have already >>>>> compiled >>>>>>>> 0.9.7 for Windows, and am currently testing it out), as well >>>>> as >>>>>>>> making a new compiling script to help speed up the process >> of >>>>>>>> cross compiling. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope that I can help contribute to this project and bring >>>>> the >>>>>>>> Windows versions up to date >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mikotoiii >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>>>>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>>>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ >>>>> applications >>>>>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you >>>>> Actionable >>>>>>>> Insights >>>>>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM >>>>> Insight. >>>>>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y [6] >> [4] >>>>> [1] >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Hydrogen-devel mailing list >>>>>>>> Hydrogen-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hydrogen-devel >> [7] >>>>> [5] [2] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> follow me on my Audio & Linux blog >>>>>>> <http://audio-and-linux.blogspot.com/ [8] [6] [4]> ! 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