Actually, now that you mention it, we currently generate the tombstones in
the client and send them over like normal inserts.  We could add a
"generate_tombstones" flag to the scanner and generate the tombstones in
the RangeServer.  That would avoid requiring a two operation transaction
for handling range deletes.

- Doug

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Sanjit Jhala <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was under the impression that adding SELECT functionality to DELETEs
> involves more than just parser changes, ie something like the MergeScanner
> logic to figure out which cells you need to insert delete records for.
>
> -Sanjit
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Doug Judd <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sanjit,
>>
>> Comments inline ...
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Sanjit Jhala <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> I am not too crazy about removing the DELETE command. In my mind, HQL
>>> syntax needs to be heavily biased towards existing SQL users as opposed to
>>> being the cleanest syntax for Hypertable power users (if you're a power
>>> user, you really shouldn't be using HQL for anything other than sanity
>>> checks and administrative tasks anyway :) ). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
>>> think one of the main goals of HQL is to be similar to SQL. I would lean
>>> towards leaving the existing DELETE in place for now and overhauling it
>>> sometime in the future.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, you're the third person to respond with this feedback.  We'll leave
>> the DELETE command in and plan to overhaul it later.
>>
>>
>>> I think it does make sense to augment the INSERT command. It sounds like
>>> your changes won't break the existing insert syntax, but add the ability
>>> insert delete records. This makes complete sense to and the curious user
>>> and look through the documentation to figure out that deletes are actually
>>> inserts. (On a side note, is there a clean way to add functionality to the
>>> new insert to delete the last 'n' versions (without knowing the timestamps)
>>> ?)
>>>
>>
>> Ok, sounds good.  We currently don't have a way to delete the last 'n'
>> versions.  I don't recall anyone asking for it, but might not be too
>> difficult to implement if we commandeer the unused value to hold a count.
>>
>>
>>> I'm also not sure if making the DELETE command support all the
>>> predicates that SELECT does is worth the effort at this point. SELECT is
>>> quite involved as it is, and I'm not sure its worth jumping through to all
>>> the hoops required to implement that.
>>>
>>
>> Well, if we're overhauling the parser anyway, it wouldn't be too
>> difficult to re-use the same sub-parser for the SELECT predicate  as well
>> as the DELETE predicate.  It seems like having one consistent syntax for
>> specifying cells of interest would be good.
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>
>> - Doug
>>
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