On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Pablo Saratxaga wrote:
Thank you for your reply.
> On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 10:00:34AM -0400, Jungshik Shin wrote:
>
> > I've been trying to come up with Xkb and Compose for Korean Hangul.
> > I activated the attached Xkb file(made by PARK Won-kyu) with 'xkbcomp
>
> > <Multi_key> <U1106> <U110b> : "???" U111d
> Does your keyboard send unicode char U+1107 or an X11 specific keysym ?
....
> Apparently, the keyboard is sending korean keysyms, and not unicode chars
That was the cause. Xkb I was using (I forgot to attach to
my last message) produces X11 specific keysym.
> If you look at /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h you will see that
> "Hangul_Pieub" is equal to keysym 0xeb2, that is different of "U1107"
> which is keysym 0x1001107
Yup.
> Now, if you think that some/all of the Hangul X11 keysyms should be merged
> with unicode keysyms equivalents, in order to have the same behaviour using
> one or the other way, then it can probably be done, but apparentyl it hasn't
> yet.
I guess it'll take a very long time to propagate all those changes
across platforms and the world. A much easier way is to NEVER use Hangul
X11 (symbolic) keysyms and to just use <U0uuuu> for Compose and 0x100uuuu
for Xkb. This is exactly the same reason as adding new X11 symbolic
keysyms is not desirable.
> > Does <Uxxxx> or
> > <U0xxxx> work? My Linux box is running XFree86 4.2.0 (from
> > RedHat 8.0).
>
> It works, but the keyboard has to send that.
Now it works great. Attached are a new Xkb I've just made
(with 0x100uuuu keysyms) and PARK Won-kyu's Xkb (based on a traditional
3-set KBD). The keyboard layout of the former is based on 2-set Korean
keyboard with 6 additional letters (3 obsolete Korean consonants, 1
obsolete Korean vowel, and two Korean tone marks) and 5 germinates (that
can be entered by two successive basic consonants) removed. However,
it's actually a 3-set keyboard because trailing consonants are assigned
shifted-position. That is, unlike 2-set KBD, no automata is necessary
to distinguish between leading consonants and trailing consonants.
When I decided to make this, the motivation was to enter
old Korean text with more ease than I could with Vim/Yudit's Romanization
based keymaps. (http://jshin.net/i18n/korean/mid_kor.vim). Having used
Romanization-based-keymaps for pre-1933 orthography Korean text input,
now I'm finding myself confused by what's supposed to be more
convenient. :-)
> > BTW, I also found that Compose file is not refered to when XIM is used.
> > That is, under ko_KR.UTF-8 where Ami is running as an XIM server,
> > Compose file has no effect although Xkb works well together with XIM
> > server. Is it intended or just a bug?
>
> The Compose file works as an XIM method (it is just an easy to use,
> and enabled by default one); and currently XFree86 is limited to only
> one XIM at a time, so you cannot have both Compose and Ami (or any other
> XIM).
After sending out my message, I realized that and felt stupid
for asking the obvious. Anyway, as we discussed before, multiple input
methods(including Compose - the simplest XIM ) running 'simultaneously'
(activated one at a time but switchable) are certainly in great need. BTW,
gtk2 appears to sorta have it. If I right-click on text-input widget
of Gtk2 application, the context-menu pops up with the list of input
modules including XIM (of the current locale) and gtk-built-in input
modules. In my installation, there are about 8 or 9 of them. I've also
installed 'imhangul' module by CHOI Hwan-jin (http://imhangul.kldp.net)
and it works very well.
Incidentally, I'm wondering whether Qt3 can have a similar mechanism.
Thanks again for your answer.
Jungshik
// A variant of Korean 2-set KBD by Jungshik Shin
//
// - Only basic Jamos are assigned key positions.
// - Trailing consonants are to be entered by shifting. Therefore,
// it's actually a 3-set KBD.
// - Three obsolete consonants and one obsolete vowel are assigned
// - Two Hangul tone marks are assigned.
// xkbcomp -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/ /full/path/kor2v.xkb :0
xkb_keymap "korea_2kb_variant" {
xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86" };
xkb_types { include "default" };
xkb_compatibility { include "default" };
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" };
xkb_symbols {
include "en_US(pc105)+group(toggle)"
name[Group1]= "US/ASCII";
name[Group2]= "Korean";
key <AB01> { [ z, Z ],
[ 0x100110F, 0x10011BF ] };
key <AC01> { [ a, A ],
[ 0x1001106, 0x10011B7] };
key <AD01> { [ q, Q ],
[ 0x1001107, 0x10011B8 ] };
key <AB02> { [ x, X ],
[ 0x1001110, 0x10011C0 ] };
key <AC02> { [ s, S ],
[ 0x1001102, 0x10011AB ] };
key <AD02> { [ w, W ],
[ 0x100110C, 0x10011BD ] };
key <AE02> { [ 2, at ],
[ 0x100114C, 0x10011F0] };
key <AB03> { [ c, C ],
[0x100110E, 0x10011BE ] };
key <AC03> { [ d, D ],
[ 0x100110B, 0x10011BC ] };
key <AD03> { [ e, E ],
[ 0x1001103, 0x10011AE ] };
key <AB04> { [ v, V ],
[ 0x1001111, 0x10011C1 ] };
key <AC04> { [ f, F ],
[ 0x1001105, 0x10011AF ] };
key <AD04> { [ r, R ],
[ 0x1001100, 0x10011A8 ] };
key <AE04> { [ 4, dollar ],
[ 0x1001159, 0x10011F9 ] };
key <AB05> { [ b, B ],
[ 0x1001172, 0x1001172] };
key <AC05> { [ g, G ],
[ 0x1001112, 0x10011C2] };
key <AD05> { [ t, T ],
[ 0x1001109, 0x10011BA ] };
key <AB06> { [ n, N ],
[ 0x100116E, 0x100116E ] };
key <AC06> { [ h, H ],
[ 0x1001169, 0x1001169 ] };
key <AD06> { [ y, Y ],
[ 0x100116D, 0x100116D ] };
key <AE06> { [ 6, asciicircum ],
[ 0x1001140, 0x10011EB ] };
key <AB07> { [ m, M ],
[ 0x1001173, 0x1001173 ] };
key <AC07> { [ j, J ],
[ 0x1001165, 0x1001165 ] };
key <AD07> { [ u, U ],
[ 0x1001167, 0x1001167 ] };
key <AC08> { [ k, K ],
[ 0x1001161,0x100119E] };
key <AD08> { [ i, I ],
[0x1001163,0x1001163 ] };
key <AC09> { [ l, L ],
[ 0x1001175, 0x1001175 ] };
key <AD09> { [ o, O ],
[ 0x1001162, 0x1001164 ] };
key <AC10> { [ semicolon, colon ],
[ 0x100302e, 0x100302f ] };
key <AD10> { [ p, P ],
[ 0x1001166, 0x1001168 ] };
key <AE10> { [ 0, parenright ],
[ 0x100115f, 0x1001160 ] };
// End alphanumeric section
// Begin modifier mappings
// modifier_map Shift { Shift_L };
// modifier_map Lock { Caps_Lock, ISO_Lock };
// modifier_map Control{ Control_L };
// modifier_map Mod3 { Mode_switch };
};
};
// xkbcomp -R/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/ 3fin.xkb :0
xkb_keymap "korea3fin" {
xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86" };
xkb_types { include "default" };
xkb_compatibility { include "default" };
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc102)" };
xkb_symbols {
include "en_US(pc105)+group(toggle)"
name[Group1]= "US/ASCII";
name[Group2]= "Korean";
key <TLDE> { [ grave, asciitilde ],
[ asterisk, hexagram ] };
key <AB01> { [ z, Z ],
[ Hangul_J_Mieum, Hangul_J_Cieuc ] };
key <AC01> { [ a, A ],
[ Hangul_J_Ieung, Hangul_J_Dikeud ] };
key <AD01> { [ q, Q ],
[ Hangul_J_Sios, Hangul_J_Pieub ] };
key <AE01> { [ 1, exclam ],
[ Hangul_J_Hieuh, Hangul_J_SsangKiyeog ] };
key <AB02> { [ x, X ],
[ Hangul_J_Kiyeog, Hangul_J_PieubSios ]
};
key <AC02> { [ s, S ],
[ Hangul_J_Nieun, Hangul_J_NieunHieuh ] };
key <AD02> { [ w, W ],
[ Hangul_J_Rieul, Hangul_J_Tieut ] };
key <AE02> { [ 2, at ],
[ Hangul_J_SsangSios, Hangul_J_RieulKiyeog ]
};
key <AB03> { [ c, C ],
[ Hangul_E, Hangul_J_Khieuq ] };
key <AC03> { [ d, D ],
[ Hangul_I, Hangul_J_RieulPieub ] };
key <AD03> { [ e, E ],
[ Hangul_YEO, Hangul_J_NieunJieuj ] };
key <AE03> { [ 3, numbersign ],
[ Hangul_J_Pieub, Hangul_J_Jieuj ] };
key <AB04> { [ v, V ],
[ Hangul_O, Hangul_J_KiyeogSios ] };
key <AC04> { [ f, F ],
[ Hangul_A, Hangul_J_RieulMieum ] };
key <AD04> { [ r, R ],
[ Hangul_AE, Hangul_J_RieulHieuh ] };
key <AE04> { [ 4, dollar ],
[ Hangul_YO, Hangul_J_RieulPhieuf ] };
key <AB05> { [ b, B ],
[ Hangul_U, question ] };
key <AC05> { [ g, G ],
[ Hangul_EU, Hangul_YAE ] };
key <AD05> { [ t, T ],
[ Hangul_EO, Hangul_J_RieulSios ] };
key <AE05> { [ 5, percent ],
[ Hangul_U, Hangul_J_RieulTieut ] };
key <AB06> { [ n, N ],
[ Hangul_Sios, minus ] };
key <AC06> { [ h, H ],
[ Hangul_Nieun, 0 ] };
key <AD06> { [ y, Y ],
[ Hangul_Rieul, 5 ] };
key <AE06> { [ 6, asciicircum ],
[ Hangul_YA, equal ] };
key <AB07> { [ m, M ],
[ Hangul_Hieuh, quotedbl ] };
key <AC07> { [ j, J ],
[ Hangul_Ieung, 1 ] };
key <AD07> { [ u, U ],
[ Hangul_Dikeud, 6 ] };
key <AE07> { [ 7, ampersand ],
[ Hangul_YAE, leftdoublequotemark ] };
key <AB08> { [ comma, less ],
[ comma, comma ] };
key <AC08> { [ k, K ],
[ Hangul_Kiyeog, 2 ] };
key <AD08> { [ i, I ],
[ Hangul_Mieum, 7 ] };
key <AE08> { [ 8, asterisk ],
[ Hangul_YI, rightdoublequotemark ] };
key <AB09> { [ period, greater ],
[ period, period ] };
key <AC09> { [ l, L ],
[ Hangul_Jieuj, 3 ] };
key <AD09> { [ o, O ],
[ Hangul_Cieuc, 8 ] };
key <AE09> { [ 9, parenleft ],
[ Hangul_U, rightsinglequotemark ] };
key <AB10> { [ slash, question ],
[ Hangul_O, exclam ] };
key <AC10> { [ semicolon, colon ],
[ Hangul_Pieub, 4 ] };
key <AD10> { [ p, P ],
[ Hangul_Phieuf, 9 ] };
key <AE10> { [ 0, parenright ],
[ Hangul_Cieuc, asciitilde ] };
key <AC11> { [ apostrophe, quotedbl ],
[ Hangul_Tieut, period ] };
key <AD11> { [ bracketleft, braceleft ],
[ parenleft, percent ] };
key <AE11> { [ minus, underscore ],
[ parenright, semicolon ] };
key <AD12> { [ bracketright, braceright ],
[ less, slash ] };
key <AE12> { [ equal, plus ],
[ greater, plus ] };
key <BKSL> { [ backslash, bar ],
[ colon, slash ] };
// End alphanumeric section
// Begin modifier mappings
// modifier_map Shift { Shift_L };
// modifier_map Lock { Caps_Lock, ISO_Lock };
// modifier_map Control{ Control_L };
// modifier_map Mod3 { Mode_switch };
};
};
