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While developing a bit more advanced (and correct) keyboard for Serbian,
I came across several problems.
I use the multi-layout features of XFree86 4.3.0.
The task:
Standard alphabet for Serbian is cyrillic, but latin transcription is
used as (if not more) widely as cyrillic script. So, I created two
different symbol maps in one file pc/sr (actually, a few more, but that
is not relevant) named "cyrillic" and "latin". Using the new features,
one should be allowed to load the maps with
setxkbmap -layout "sr,sr,en_US" -variant "cyrillic,latin," -option
"grp:shift_toggle"
It all works fine, but the problem arises with the usage of CTRL+<key>
combinations. If I put en_US as the first group, then they use keys from
group1 no matter what group is active. But, in any other case, they use
the key mappings from the "current group".
To try to be more clear:
If groups are "sr(cyrillic),sr(latin),en_US" pressing CTRL+<S> would
generate CTRL+С (cyrillic S) if cyrillic group is active, and CTRL+S
otherwise.
If groups are "en_US,sr(cyrillic),sr(latin)" pressing CTRL+<S> would
generate CTRL+S no matter what group is active.
I don't understand the reasoning behind this, so I would love to be
enlightened :) To me, it seems to be a bug, since I couldn't find any
special actions being defined for use in en_US. And to also mention that
it's the same if I replace en_US with some other latin mapping (eg. Czech).
Because this is not the desired behaviour for me (I want CTRL+S to be
generated even in cyrillic, without forcing user to put en_US in the
first group), Časlav Ilić and I have made a SIX_LEVEL keyboard that puts
the basic english alphabet at levels five and six.
If I put the Control as a level five modifier in a definition of
SIX_LEVEL* types, Control gets discarded and I can just use it as
level-five shift. If I use preserve[...]=Control, I experience problems
in GTK+ 2.x apps (Galeon, gedit) where just pressing any character gets
interpreted as if Ctrl is already pressed (eg. pressing A in cyrillic
map acts as if CTRL+A is pressed). So, I had to define a Mod4 as
modifier for the 5th level.
The "sixlevel" file which defines SIX_LEVEL types is located at
http://www.kvota.net/srpski/1.5/sixlevel (it goes in /etc/X11/xkb/types
and is included in file "complete"). The symbols file is at
http://www.kvota.net/srpski/1.5/sr (or you can download both in
http://www.kvota.net/srpski/sr-1.5.tar.gz — 4kb file).
Still, I experience some weird behaviour from time to time, and I'd like
to hear any advice on setting this kind of layout without insisting on
group order.
Also, I'd care to hear how to output/repeat a modifier if I use it for
switching levels (eg. if I put "Control" to be used for level5 shift,
then I also want the "Control" modifier to stay active; preserve causes
all the weird problems mentioned above).
As a guide, I used both "Unreliable guide to XKB" by Doug Palmer (if I
remember correctly, otherwise please excuse me), and "XKB Guide" by Ivan
Pascal. Also, I've read bits of XKBlib and XKBprotocol documents, and of
course the README.XKB* supplied with XFree86 4.3.0.
Best regards,
Danilo Šegan
PS. I also noticed that "pc/us" map doesn't define symbols for <BKSL>,
so it cannot be used with any mapping which redefines it (mine being a
prime example). I'd call this also a bug!
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