> On May 9, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Mirja Kühlewind <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The i2nsf charter says
> 
> "A single document covering use cases, problem statement, and gap analysis 
> document. This document will initially be produced for reference as a living 
> list to track and record discussions: the working group may decide to not 
> publish this document as an RFC."
> 
> It's okay for me that the wg decided that they want to publish this document 
> (for whatever reason). I've read it and did not find it very useful for 
> people outside the wg. However, that's why I abstain and not blocking it.

+1
Alissa

> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
> 
> On 09.05.2017 17:09, Benoit Claise wrote:
>> On 5/9/2017 4:56 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
>>> Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for
>>> draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-15: No Objection
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> COMMENT:
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> I found the document to provide a useful overview and introduction - I
>>> think that documents which provide an introduction to a technology are
>>> useful, as they set the stage for users and implementers to understand
>>> how everything ties together.
>>> 
>>> I thank the authors for writing it.
>>> 
>>> I also note that this is part of the I2NSF charter, and was written to
>>> satisfy this.
>> Indeed.
>> We clarified the situation of "support documents" with this IESG statement:
>> https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/support-documents-in-ietf-wgs.html, dated
>> Nov 2016.
>> The statement contains this key sentence IMO:
>> 
>>    As regards to timing, it would be worthwhile to discuss the need to
>>    publish support documents early during the charter development process in
>>    order to set the right expectations and minimize surprises at a late 
>> stage.
>> 
>> The authors produced the charter deliverables. Thanks for that.
>> Once a deliverable is in an existing charter, I don't really understand the
>> meaning of abstaining.
>> The IESG statement should take effect for future charter discussions, not
>> past charters.
>> 
>> Regards, Benoit
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