Roman, I discussed this Normative reference issue with Linda. Okay, I will follow your guidance. Please let my SKKU team work for moving the following I2NSF YANG data model drafts into RFCs: - I2NSF Capability YANG Data Model Draft - I2NSF Consumer-Facing Interface YANG Data Model Draft - I2NSF NSF-Facing Interface YANG Data Model Draft - I2NSF Registration Interface YANG Data Model Draft - I2NSF NSF Monitoring YANG Data Model Draft
For the I2NSF Capability YANG Data Model Draft, I sent you the revision letter and revised draft on July 13, 2020. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model-06 Could you help us move this draft forward to the IESG evaluation? Thanks. Best Regards, Paul On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:18 AM Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Roman, > You are right since those YANG data model drafts need to be read. > However, as long as I know, because an Informational RFC does not have > Normative References usually, > I think they can be cited as Informative References. > > Linda, > Could you share your opinion with us? > > Thanks. > > Best Regards, > Paul > > 2020년 7월 24일 (금) 오전 6:05, Roman Danyliw <[email protected]>님이 작성: > >> Hi Paul! >> >> I'm not so sure we can do that. By my read, the intent of this document >> is to show how I2NSF can be used (i.e., it's an applicability statement).. >> Using the shorthand from [1], the core I2NSF YANG drafts "must be read to >> understand the technology". If that's the case, then they have to be >> normative. Does that make sense? >> >> Regards, >> Roman >> >> [1] >> https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/normative-informative-references/ >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: I2nsf <[email protected]> On Behalf Of RFC Editor >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 6:40 PM >> > To: Roman Danyliw <[email protected]>; Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong >> > <[email protected]> >> > Cc: [email protected]; skku-iotlab-members <skku-iotlab- >> > [email protected]>; RFC Editor <[email protected]> >> > Subject: [I2nsf] [Roman] Re: Request for Resolving <draft-ietf-i2nsf- >> > applicability> >> > >> > Hi Roman, >> > >> > We're hoping you can provide some input here. Moving references into >> or out >> > of the Normative section requires AD approval. >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Sandy >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 08:40:50AM +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong wrote: >> > > Hi RFC Editor, >> > > If we move those references to Informative References because our >> > > I2NSF Applicability Draft will be an Informational RFC. >> > > Could you publish our I2NSF Applicability Draft? >> > > >> > > I CC the Security Area AD, Roman Danyliw for his opinion. >> > > >> > > Roman, >> > > Could you say your opinion on this reference issue? >> > > >> > > Thanks. >> > > >> > > Best Regards, >> > > Paul >> > > >> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 3:52 AM RFC Editor <[email protected] >> > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Greetings, >> > > > >> > > > We will update the document as requested, but please note that the >> > > > changes described below do not remove the normative reference holds >> > > > on this document. The following Internet-Drafts are listed as >> > > > normative references; this document cannot move forward in the >> > > > publication process until these documents are also approved for >> > publication: >> > > > >> > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm >> > > > draft-ietf-dots-architecture >> > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm >> > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-monitoring-data-model >> > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-registration-interface-dm >> > > > >> > > > Note that you do not need to send us an updated XML file as these >> > > > I-Ds are updated. We will update these entries to refer to the RFC >> > > > numbers as part of our publication process. >> > > > >> > > > Please let us know if you have any questions. >> > > > >> > > > Thank you, >> > > > RFC Editor/sg >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:10:40PM +0900, Mr. Jaehoon Paul Jeong >> wrote: >> > > > > Hi RFC Editor, >> > > > > >> > > > > Our draft is in the state of MISSREF with the five drafts. >> > > > > (https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C405 < >> > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/cluster_info.php?cid=C405>) >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm NOT-RECEIVED >> > > > > draft-ietf-dots-architecture RFC-EDITOR >> > > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm NOT-RECEIVED >> > > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-monitoring-data-model NOT-RECEIVED >> > > > > draft-ietf-i2nsf-registration-interface-dm NOT-RECEIVED >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > >> > > > > Except for draft-ietf-dots-architecture, other drafts will take >> > > > > more time until they are approved as RFCs by IESG. >> > > > > >> > > > > Could you use the latest versions of the I2NSF-relevant drafts for >> > > > > the >> > > > publication of our draft? >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > [consumer-facing-inf-dm] >> > > > > Jeong, J., Chung, C., Ahn, T., Kumar, R., and S. Hares, >> > > > > "I2NSF Consumer-Facing Interface YANG Data Model", draft- >> > > > > ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm-09 (work in >> > > > > progress), July 2020. >> > > > > >> > > > > [nsf-facing-inf-dm] >> > > > > Kim, J., Jeong, J., Park, J., Hares, S., and Q. Lin, >> > > > > "I2NSF Network Security Function-Facing Interface YANG >> > > > > Data Model", draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm-09 >> > > > > (work in progress), May 2020. >> > > > > >> > > > > [nsf-monitoring-dm] >> > > > > Jeong, J., Chung, C., Hares, S., Xia, L., and H. Birkholz, >> > > > > "I2NSF NSF Monitoring YANG Data Model", draft-ietf-i2nsf- >> > > > > nsf-monitoring-data-model-03 (work in progress), May 2020. >> > > > > >> > > > > [registration-inf-dm] >> > > > > Hyun, S., Jeong, J., Roh, T., Wi, S., and J. Park, "I2NSF >> > > > > Registration Interface YANG Data Model", draft-ietf-i2nsf- >> > > > > registration-interface-dm-08 (work in progress), March >> > > > > 2020. >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > >> > > > > There are version-ups for the following drafts. >> > > > > Could you use the latest versions of them? >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > [dots-architecture] >> > > > > Mortensen, A., Reddy, T., Andreasen, F., Teague, N., and >> > > > > R. Compton, "Distributed-Denial-of-Service Open Threat >> > > > > Signaling (DOTS) Architecture", draft-ietf-dots- >> > > > > architecture-18 (work in progress), March 2020. >> > > > > >> > > > > [policy-translation] >> > > > > Jeong, J., Yang, J., Chung, C., and J. Kim, "Security >> > > > > Policy Translation in Interface to Network Security >> > > > > Functions", draft-yang-i2nsf-security-policy- >> > > > > translation-06 (work in progress), May 2020. >> > > > > >> > > > > [tls-esni] >> > > > > Rescorla, E., Oku, K., Sullivan, N., and C. Wood, "TLS >> > > > > Encrypted Client Hello", draft-ietf-tls-esni-07 (work in >> > > > > progress), June 2020. >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > >> > > > > Also, I2NSF Terminology Draft[i2nsf-terminology] expired, so I >> > > > > would >> > > > like to >> > > > > replace [i2nsf-terminology] with [RFC8329], and remove >> > > > [i2nsf-terminology] as >> > > > > citations in the text and its reference paragraph from the text. >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > [i2nsf-terminology] >> > > > > Hares, S., Strassner, J., Lopez, D., Xia, L., and H. >> > > > > Birkholz, "Interface to Network Security Functions (I2NSF) >> > > > > Terminology", draft-ietf-i2nsf-terminology-08 (work in >> > > > > progress), July 2019. >> > > > > >> > > > > [RFC8329] Lopez, D., Lopez, E., Dunbar, L., Strassner, J., and R. >> > > > > Kumar, "Framework for Interface to Network Security >> > > > > Functions", RFC 8329, February 2018. >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > >> > > > > There is the addition of IANA Considerations Section as follows. >> > > > > Could you include this new section? >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > 10. IANA Considerations >> > > > > This document does not require any IANA actions. >> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -------- >> > > > > >> > > > > I attach the revised draft's xml and pdf files with the above >> changes. >> > > > > >> > > > > Could you move this draft forward to publish it as an RFC? >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks. >> > > > > >> > > > > Best Regards, >> > > > > Paul >> > > > > -- >> > > > > =========================== >> > > > > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> > > > > Associate Professor >> > > > > Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan >> > > > > University >> > > > > Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> > > > > Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > > > Personal Homepage: >> http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> > > > > < >> > > > http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php> >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > =========================== >> > > Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. >> > > Associate Professor >> > > Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan University >> > > Office: +82-31-299-4957 >> > > Email: [email protected], [email protected] Personal Homepage: >> > > http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php >> > > <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > I2nsf mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i2nsf >> > -- =========================== Mr. Jaehoon (Paul) Jeong, Ph.D. Associate Professor Department of Computer Science and Engineering Sungkyunkwan University Office: +82-31-299-4957 Email: [email protected], [email protected] Personal Homepage: http://iotlab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php <http://cpslab.skku.edu/people-jaehoon-jeong.php>
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