Hi Alia,

Thanks for starting the conversation :-)

IMO, the lines between 'network-centric' and 'device-centric' are a little 
blurred. For the sake of argument, let me agree with Joel that the I2RS WG's 
scope should be limited to a single routing system. Let me ask a few questions 
then:

  *   Is an OSPF router or an IS-IS router a 'routing system', as defined in 
the WG charter? If yes, would its LSDB be considered 'topology information' as 
defined in the WG charter?  And if the the answer to the latter question is 
yes, would reading the LSDB information from the router via a tbd. I2RS 
protocol be considered 'extraction of information about topology from the 
network', as defined in the WG charter?
  *   Is a BGP Router Reflector a routing system, as defined in the WG charter 
of the WG? If yes, would the LSDB information (potentially collected from 
multiple IGP areas) in RR's BGP-RIB be considered 'topology information' as 
defined in the WG charter? And if the the answer to the latter question is yes, 
would reading the LSDB information from the RR be considered 'extraction of 
information about topology from the network', as defined in the WG charter? And 
if the BGP RR implements BGP-LS, would extracting the LSDB information from the 
RR be in scope of the WG? Could BGP-LS actually be considered a candidate for 
an I2RS protocol  that would  be 'extracting information about topology from 
the network'?

Thanks,
Jan


From: Alia Atlas <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 6:23 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [i2rs] topology info model - what makes it a "network" model vs. a 
"device" model

I'd really like to start a conversation about the differences between a 
topology IM model that is network-centric vs. device-centric.  Clearly the WG 
has strong and different opinions about it.

Since many people are here in Vancouver, focused on IETF and not their 
day-jobs, this seems like a good time to get it rolling...

Alia
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