Yep.

Tom 


> On May 14, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Kent Watsen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Joel's "templates" sound like apply-groups in Junos:
> 
> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos13.3/topics/example/routing-matr
> ix-tx-matrix-plus-using-configuration-groups-for-components-solutions.html
> 
> K.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5/14/14, 10:28 AM, "Joel M. Halpern" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> (Alia, correct me if I mis-represent this concept.)
>> 
>> No, temnplating is not just "Default values must be possible to specify."
>> 
>> An example is that you might have a scheduling structure.  it has a set
>> of defaults which create a specific scheduling discipling.
>> The Client can create a scheduling instance, and can over-ride any and
>> all of those defaults.
>> So far, that is just modeling with defaults.
>> 
>> The idea with templates is that the Client could also say "For all the
>> values I don't specify, use the WFQ template" or the EF template, or ...
>> If the client does that, the agent would treat the values from that
>> template which are specified in the template and are not specified in
>> the request from the controller as if they had been specified by the
>> controller, rather than using the base defaults.
>> 
>> Coupled with this, some mechanism would provide these templates.  The
>> power here is that there might be different templates for the "EF
>> Scheduling template" on different boxes to reflect how each box should
>> be configured to achieve the policy goal.
>> 
>> Conversely, clearly, all of this data can be on the client and the
>> client can do the inclusion.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> Joel
>> 
>>> On 5/14/14, 9:58 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Templating is described in the archtiecture document.
>>>> However, as I said when i presented the material, this is a topic on
>>>> which
>>>> the authors disagree.
>>>> I personally do not think it should be a protocol behavior, and
>>>> therefore do
>>>> not see it as something the model needs to represent.
>>>> 
>>>> The basic idea of templating is to allow the I2RS client to say to the
>>>> I2RS
>>>> agent "I want to set this instance to these values, but for all the
>>>> things I
>>>> don't specify, use this template over here to determine what values to
>>>> set."
>>>> This clearly has power.  Equally clearly, it can be done at the client
>>>> rather than at the agent.
>>> 
>>> Seems like i abused the term "template". I.e it seems to me that would
>>> fall under
>>> " Default values MUST be possible to specify" - which is described in
>>> the wiki.
>>> Shouldnt this be a model problem?
>>> I will fix the wiki entry and remove it from that sub-section.
>>> 
>>> On the OO class/instances:
>>> The motivation is to be able to describe "set blah to RIB instance
>>> foo". The
>>> concept for abstracting a "factory" which is essentially a "class" vs
>>> an "instance" of
>>> that class seems to belong to the model.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> jamal
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