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From: "Susan Hares" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "'Jeffrey Haas'" <[email protected]>; "Edward Crabbe" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:26 PM

> I've posted a version of white-i2rs-use-case-05 with the
recommendations at the front of the document.  I look forward to
additional comments.  I appreciate Tom Petch and Dean B.'s comments on
these drafts.

Sue

I am flattered; I am not sure that I deserve such mention.

I am more interested in the use cases part of the I-D, seeing
requirements and info-model as the next stage when use cases are agreed,
and they look fine (perhaps /may Data Centers/many Data Centers/).

I note the reference to ISIS which I find significant.  My experience is
more of OSPF but appreciate that that is rare with Operators.  However,
both are Link State and so very different to BGP which makes me think
about the use of RIB.  The NETMOD routing-cfg started with RIBs, dropped
them and then reinstated them (after consulting with I2RS), whereas for
me, RIBs are BGP (as defined in RFC4271) and OSPF has an equivalent in
LSDB, which is very different in detail (as much research as Lada has
done across three differing platforms, I am not certain that the NETMOD
has sufficient routing expertise to get this perfect:-(.

I think you need a definition of RIB, perhaps by a Normative reference
to rib-info-model, but for me that leaves unclear the relationship
between routing instance, routing protocol and RIB, at least when you
get into requirements.

Likewise, this I-D is cast in terms of a table identifier and a route
process identifier, whereas routing-cfg has  routing-instance [name]
with router-id, ribs, interfaces, routing-protocols etc  I have a sense
of two divergent models of what a router is for all the discussions.

REQ1 last sentence should probably include removing process

REQ2 I think is about source-based routing but it does not quite say
that, rather reading as if source or destination routing were equally
valid options

REQ3 again the wording seems odd - I think you mean that traffic with a
given destination (or source?) prefix should be discarded, but that is
not what it says

REQ4 I find vague, as I do anything with the word policy in it:-(
Something concrete (communities, MED, ...) would help

REQ6 makes me wonder what is a RIB when it is not local

REQ8 seems all embracing (SNMP, DHCP, NTP ...?:-) - I would like
something more concrete.  Again, I wonder if it is technically possible
to present information in a consistent manner given the difference in
underlying concepts of protocols.

REQ9 - again all embracing and as such, probably impossible, at least as
written.  Limiting it just to BGP and a link-state protocol, again that
seems challenging.

REQ10 - policies again, and it is unclear who is doing the time
management.  Some configuration protocols do have timer-based
facilities, but not NETCONF; do you mean here that I2RS must have
functionality based on timers (e.g. between 08:00 and 17:00 EDT, route
this via Europe and Japan?)

Tom Petch

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