Sue,

From: i2rs <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of 
Susan Hares <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, November 23, 2015 at 5:45 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [i2rs] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt

Resending to I2RS WG.

From: Susan Hares [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:33 PM
To: 'Jeff Tantsura'; 'Acee Lindem (acee)'; 'Mach Chen'; 
'[email protected]<mailto:'[email protected]>'
Cc: 'Jeffrey Haas'; 'Alia Atlas'; 'Benoit Claise (bclaise)'
Subject: RE: [i2rs] I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt


Jeff and Acee:



Your suggested change goes against the WG adopted RIB Information draft that 
has been discussed for over 2 years.  The informational draft has been through 
WG LC and you did not make any suggestions or comments during the WG LC.  Any 
change of this matter is not simply something you indicate to the authors, but 
needs to be discussed on the WG as a direction change for the RIB IM/DM models.

Independent of the I2RS efforts, milestones, and processes, I think we need to 
address whether provisioning all these tunnels via RIB installation is  
appropriate and, additionally, consistent with other WG YANG models. In many 
cases, it would seem there are tunnel attributes other than the encaps that 
need to be provisioned. At a minimum, I think you’d need to either reference an 
RFC describing soft tunnel provisioning or describe the specifics of this 
provisioning.




Prior to moving this change through WG adoption cycle, the routing 
architectural team needs to have: a) concrete proposal for the ephemeral state 
that covers I2RS RIB and 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg/  and  b) I 
requested this input of Acee Lindem as a representative of the routing 
architecture team.

The  identification of this problem with tunnel provisioning is a direct 
outcome of this effort.






I will be glad to work with you on a concrete proposal that you can send to the 
email list and present at the I2RS interim meeting on 12/16/2015 (10-11:30am 
ET).

I will continue to work on ietf-routing alignment but don’t have the bandwidth 
for the above.

Acee







 Sue Hares



-----Original Message-----
From: i2rs [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 4:27 PM
To: Acee Lindem (acee); Mach Chen; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [i2rs] I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt



Hi Mach,



I agree with Acee’s comments and would encourage you to use generic/existing 
tunnel model(s), please see comments provided during RTGWG meeting in Yokohama.

There are already too many, we need to rationalize this work.



This is what has been discussed in Yokohama, Robin presented



-- draft-li-rtgwg-utunnel-yang

   -- draft-li-rtgwg-tunnel-policy-yang

   -- draft-wwz-netmod-yang-tunnel-cfg

   -- draft-zheng-intarea-gre-yang

   -- draft-liu-intarea-gre-tunnel-yang

   -- draft-liu-intarea-ipipv4-tunnel-yang



Cheers,

Jeff













On 11/23/15, 11:56, "i2rs on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" 
<[email protected] on behalf of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%20on%20behalf%20of%[email protected]>>
 wrote:



>Hi Mach,

>

>I’m looking at draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt and it still

>includes all the tunnel encaps. I know you received several comments

>that those should be in the tunnel model(s) and this I2RS RIB model

>should merely reference an imported tunnel abstraction. How are you

>going to address this? It seemed that the consensus (and an opinion

>that I share) was that this model should not attempt to generically

>created tunnels via RIB/FIB entries.

>Thanks,

>Acee

>

>On 11/23/15, 2:23 AM, "i2rs on behalf of Mach Chen"

><[email protected] on behalf of 
>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]%20on%20behalf%20of%[email protected]>>
> wrote:

>

>>Hi,

>>

>>We just uploaded an update that addresses the comments received

>>(include online and offline) recently. Please review the draft and comment!

>>

>>Thanks,

>>Mach

>>

>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: i2rs [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of

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>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

>>> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

>>> Subject: [i2rs] I-D Action: draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt

>>>

>>>

>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts

>>>directories.

>>>  This draft is a work item of the Interface to the Routing System

>>>Working Group  of the IETF.

>>>

>>>         Title           : A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Base

>>> (RIB)

>>>         Authors         : Lixing Wang

>>>                           Hariharan Ananthakrishnan

>>>                           Mach(Guoyi) Chen

>>>                           Amit Dass

>>>                           Sriganesh Kini

>>>                           Nitin Bahadur

>>>        Filename        : draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04.txt

>>>        Pages           : 65

>>>        Date            : 2015-11-22

>>>

>>> Abstract:

>>>    This document defines a YANG data model for Routing Information Base

>>>    (RIB) that aligns with the I2RS RIB information model.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:

>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model/

>>>

>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:

>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04

>>>

>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:

>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-04

>>>

>>>

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