On 3/24/16 13:30, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) wrote:
Let me say it a bit more clearly.

I think Sue (the author) is right. We should define the term ephemeral
at the beginning of the document and keep using it throughout the
document. It would be confusing for the people to change it to
“non-persistent (across power on /off or reboot)”.

Agree with this. I think this definition covers what we've meant by ephemeral, and explicitly stating it once is good.

Joe


Cheers,
Mehmet

*From:* OPS-DIR [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *EXT
Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)
*Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:06 PM
*To:* EXT Susan Hares <[email protected]>; [email protected]
*Cc:* 'Joel Halpern Direct' <[email protected]>; [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [OPS-DIR] Ephemeral - Should we use another word - (3/24
to 4/3) Call for opinion

Agree.

Cheers,
Mehmet

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Susan Hares
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*Cc:* 'Joel Halpern Direct' <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [OPS-DIR] Ephemeral - Should we use another word - (3/24 to
4/3) Call for opinion

Hi all:

<wg chair hat on>

The draft-ietf-i2rs-architecture document has been approved as an RFC.
In the review, the OPS-DIR review indicated that “ephemeral” meant more
than “does not survive a reboot”. They have asked the I2RS working group
if replacing “ephemeral” with non-persistent (across power on/off or
reboot cycles) would be a better choice.

What do you think – leave at it at “ephemeral” or change to
“non-persistent (across power on/off or reboot cycles) ? We will have a
1 week call on

This would mean every place that “ephemeral” is listed, the authors
would replace with “non-persistent”.  In the first instance, we will
indicate “non-persistent (across power on/off or reboot cycles).

<wg chair hat off>

As the author, I think we are better to define ephemeral at the
beginning as “non-persistent (across power on /off or reboot).  Changing
the definition at this point, I suspect will simply confuse people.

Sue Hares



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