Joe -

Apologies for the delayed response. I am a victim of my own email infilters. :-(
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Clarke (jclarke)
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:44 AM
> To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg); [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [i2rs] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-i2rs-traceability-08
> 
> On 4/27/16 17:39, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote:
> > Summary:  This document is a well written document - easy to understand.
> > My compliments to the authors. I believe there is one minor issue
> > which I would like to see addressed before publication.
> 
> Thanks for your comments and feedback, Les.  Please see below for some
> replies and questions.
> 
> > In Section 5.2 there is a definition of the information which is
> > required to be kept by an I2RS Agent for each I2RS interaction. I
> > would like to see the addition of "Request State" into this list.
> > Operationally each request could be in one of the following states:
> >
> >
> >
> > *         Enqueued (or pending if you prefer)
> >
> > *         In process
> >
> > *         Completed
> >
> >
> >
> > The lack of such a state seems to imply that both the queue time and
> > the processing time are insignificant. While I think this may be the
> > case for many requests, it will not always be the case. In queue time
> > may be lengthy due to other load on the Agent. Also, some requests -
> > particularly destructive requests which involve cleanup of resources -
> > may take a significant amount of time to complete.
> 
> Good observation.  Traceability was aimed mainly at the termination of the
> request, but I like the idea of tracing the state machine.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > Along with this an additional timestamp - Processing Initiated - would
> > be useful to indicate when processing of the request actually began.
> 
> I don't know we need a new timestamp.  Perhaps we just need to rename
> "Request Timestamp" and "Result Timestamp" to "Start Timestamp" and
> "End Timestamp" to denote the time within the current state.  What do you
> think?

[Les:] My intent was to log the time at which the request began processing so 
that you can see whether a long delay in completion was due to enqueue  delay 
or actual lengthy processing time. I am not adamant about this so if you want 
to stay with the two timestamps that is OK.

> 
> > s/Some notable elements on the architecture/ Some notable elements of
> > the architecture
> 
> Fixed.  Thanks!
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > Figure 1
> >
> >
> >
> > Not clear to me why Application IDs start at 0 but Client IDs start at 1.
> 
> Ah.  The numbers there are not IDs.  They are the number of actual things in
> the boxes above.  For Applications, there may be 0 to N for a given client.  
> For
> Clients, you need at least 1.  Does that make sense?
> 
[Les:] Maybe you want to use "shadows" on the boxes to indicate there can be 
multiple Application boxes and multiple Client boxes?
What you say makes sense but I do not intuit that when I look at the ASSCII art.

> >
> >
> >
> > Figure 1
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the text "Op Data V" between I2RS Agent box and Routing System box
> > intentional?
> 
> Yes.  The 'V' is meant to be an arrow head pointed down.  The request
> and data go from Client to Agent whereas the Response goes from Agent to
> Client.
> 
> We are open to suggestions on how to make this clearer.

[Les:] I think it would be clearer if you had two lines - one flowing down 
associated with the Op Data and one flowing up with the result.

> 
> >
> >
> >
> > Section 5.2
> >
> >
> >
> > Secondary Identity
> >
> >
> >
> > This is defined to be "opaque" yet if not provided the agent is supposed
> > to insert "an UNAVAILABLE value". This seems to be a contradiction
> > unless we have a publicly defined value that clients are prohibited from
> > using. Absent that you would need a "Secondary Identity Valid" indicator.
> 
> Good observation.  I think it's fine to say that this field must be
> logged.  If there is no application, then the field will be logged as
> empty.  If there is an application, then whatever value is provided will
> be logged.
> 
> Do you feel strongly that we need a field to indicate Application Present?
>
[Les:] I am fine w your changes.

   Les
 
> >
> >
> >
> > Section 7.4
> >
> >
> >
> > s/establish an vendor-agnostic/establish a vendor-agnostic
> 
> Fixed.  Thanks!
> 
> Joe

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