Hi Edwin,

OK, thanks for the clarification!

We will add a nexthop list under the rib node in the next revision.  Then with 
the nh-add/delete , route-add/delete, and route-update RPCs, an implementation 
can flexibly operate the route and nexthop.

Hope this addresses your concern.

Best regards,
Mach

From: Edwin Cordeiro [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:02 PM
To: Mach Chen
Cc: i2rs
Subject: Re: [i2rs] Problem using rib-data-model RPC with rib-info-model 
Information (draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-05 + 
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-info-model-08)

Hi Mach,

I mean the RIB should have a group of a nexthops and a group of routes and 
while the draft stated nexthop as part of the route.

I my understanding each route would indicate which of the existing nexthops it 
uses, allowing a nexthop to be shared by multiple routes without having 
multiple copies of the same next hop.

I don't think my statement contradicts your understand.

Best Regards,


Edwin Cordeiro

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:22 AM, Mach Chen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Edwin,

Could you elaborate more about the mean of “nexthops should be handled 
separated to routes” ?

In my understanding, the nexthop-add/delete RPC s are designed to operate the 
nexthop separately.  Of cause, a nexthop list node should be added to the rib, 
hence to maintain the added nexthops.

Best regards,
Mach

From: Edwin Cordeiro [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 3:25 PM
To: Mach Chen
Cc: i2rs
Subject: Re: [i2rs] Problem using rib-data-model RPC with rib-info-model 
Information (draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-05 + 
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-info-model-08)

Hi Mach,

Thanks for the explanation. We thought that nexthops should be handled 
separated to routes, but that wasn't reflected in the draft.

Best Regards,


Edwin Cordeiro

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 5:08 AM, Mach Chen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Edwin,

Thanks for your great question!

I think this is a bug of the current model, there should be a list in a rib to 
maintain the nexthops of the rib.

Regarding your question: “How can we add a Nexthop without informing the parent 
Route?” Yes, a nexthop can be created without informing the parent routes. In 
the current design, the nexthop is decoupled from the routes. A nexthop can be 
shared by multiple routes or is dedicated to a single route.

Best regards,
Mach

From: i2rs [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On 
Behalf Of Edwin Cordeiro
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:44 PM
To: i2rs
Subject: [i2rs] Problem using rib-data-model RPC with rib-info-model 
Information (draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-05 + 
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-info-model-08)

Hello all,

When trying to implement I2RS we are faced the following problem:

In draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-data-model-05#section-2.5 the RPC offer the following 
Nexthop operations:
      +---x nh-add
      |  +---w input
      |  |  +---w rib-name              string
      |  |  +---w nexthop-id?           uint32
      |  |  +---w sharing-flag?         boolean
      |  |  +---w (nexthop-type)?
      |  |     ...
      |  +--ro output
      |     +--ro result        uint32
      |     +--ro reason?       string
      |     +--ro nexthop-id?   uint32
      +---x nh-delete
         +---w input
         |  +---w rib-name              string
         |  +---w nexthop-id?           uint32
         |  +---w sharing-flag?         boolean
         |  +---w (nexthop-type)?
         |     ...
         +--ro output
            +--ro result uint32
            +--ro reason? string

In these operations the Nexthop is directly connected to a RIB, but in 
draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-info-model-08#section-2: RIB(s) contains Route(s) and 
Route(s) contains Nexthop(s):

            routing-instance
            |             |
            |             |
      0..N  |             | 1..N
            |             |
        interface(s)     RIB(s)
                          |
                          |
                          | 0..N
                          |
                        route(s)
                        | | |
              +---------+ | +----------+
              |           |            |
         0..N |           |            |
route-attribute         match         nexthop
                          |
                         ...

Our questions are:
- How can we add a Nexthop without informing the parent Route?
- Looking at the RIB grammar (draft-ietf-i2rs-rib-info-model-08#section-6) the 
Nexthop is also attached to a Route. Shouldn't Nexthop be part of RIB? Maybe 
something like:

  <rib> ::= <RIB_NAME> <rib-family>
                      [<route> ... ]
                      [<nexthop> ...]
                      [ENABLE_IP_RPF_CHECK]

            routing-instance
            |      |
            |      |
      0..N  |      | 1..N
            |      |
    interface(s)  RIB(s)
                   |  | 0..N
                   |  +--------------+
              0..N |                 |
                   |                 |
                 route(s) ------> nexthop(s)
                 | |       1..N
       +---------+ |
       |           |
  0..N |           |
route-attribute  match
                   |
                  ...

If we misunderstood the model, could someone please explain why our 
understanding is incorrect?

Best Regards,

Edwin Cordeiro


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